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In this conversation, Robert and Gregg Braden explore the intersections of science, spirituality, and ancient wisdom. They discuss the significance of numbers and gematria, the encoded messages within DNA, and the Gnostic perspective on humanity's origins. Braden emphasizes the importance of crossing traditional boundaries in science to uncover deeper truths about our existence and potential. In this conversation, Gregg Braden and Robert Grant explore the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science, discussing the implications of DNA, consciousness, and the potential of humanity. They delve into the Gnostic perspective on human existence, the significance of the Shroud of Turin, and the mathematical connections that suggest a deeper understanding of our reality. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of recognizing our hybrid nature and the choices we face as we navigate a rapidly changing world. Connect with Gregg Braden Website: https://www.greggbraden.com Instagram: / gregg.braden YouTube: / @greggbradenofficial Books: https://www.greggbraden.com/shop/books Connect with Robert Edward Grant YouTube: / @robert_edward_grant Instagram: / robertedwardgrant Facebook: / robertedwardgrant Website: https://robertedwardgrant.com/ Robert Edward Grant Resources Books: https://robertedwardgrant.com/store/#... Courses: https://robertedwardgrant.com/courses/ Store: https://robertedwardgrant.com/store/#... Subscribe to the Robert Edward Grant Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2XrShu3... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Chapters 00:00 Exploring Life Beyond Earth 02:53 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality 05:55 The Language of Numbers and DNA 08:47 Ancient Texts and Modern Discoveries 11:36 The Gnostic Perspective on Humanity 15:03 The Role of Technology in Human Evolution 17:58 The Cosmic Clock and Human Consciousness 20:37 The Bifurcation of Society 23:55 Embracing Our Divine Potential 26:53 The Future of Humanity 30:02 Conclusion and Reflections