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In this episode of Sustainability Wired, host Lorenzo Saa, Chief Sustainability Officer at Clarity AI, sits down with Karina Litvack, an experienced corporate board member and sustainable investment pioneer, to unpack the critical role of corporate boards in addressing climate risk. Set against the backdrop of one of the hottest years on record, disappointing outcomes from COP 30, and the US exit from the Paris Agreement, this conversation explores how businesses and their boards must navigate an increasingly complex geopolitical landscape. Drawing on 15 years in sustainable investment and extensive experience on the board of a major oil and gas company, Karina offers a pragmatic look at what it takes to drive a Paris-aligned transition strategy from the boardroom. She details the recent relaunch of the Chapter Zero Alliance across 72 countries, highlighting its mission to educate and empower directors. From the necessity of strong chair leadership and committee delegation to the dangers of "greenhushing" and the fracturing of Net Zero alliances, Karina shares candid insights into the realities of corporate climate governance. Together, Lorenzo and Karina also discuss how institutional investors can better engage with companies, the dual disruptive and enabling nature of AI in the energy transition, and why striving for 1.5 degrees remains essential even as we prepare for a warmer world. Key topics include: ✅ The current geopolitical landscape: The outcomes of COP 30 and political polarization are complicating climate action for businesses. ✅ Building board competency: It is important to have strong chairman leadership, an open-mindedness to learn, and access to external experts. ✅ Effective board structures: Delegating climate issues to committees is practical, but fluid communication is needed to avoid silos. ✅ Combating greenhushing: Hiding climate commitments due to litigation risks is damaging to a company's narrative and external messaging. ✅ The value of collective action: Quitting industry Net Zero alliances makes broader climate action significantly harder for everyone else. ✅ Investor engagement strategies: Investors must tailor their questions, be persistent, and demand direct access to the board rather than relying solely on management. ✅ Internal alignment for investors: A united front is required between stewardship teams and portfolio managers to be taken seriously by boards. ✅ AI's dual role: AI poses massive energy demands through data centers, but it also acts as a powerful enabler for strategic decision-making. ✅ Realism vs. Aspiration: Society must prepare for a world that misses the 1.5-degree target while still fiercely striving to achieve it. Whether you’re an institutional investor, a board director, or a sustainability professional, this episode offers a grounded view of how climate governance actually works and how investors can empower boards to take meaningful action. 🎧 Listen now for a candid discussion on why tenacity and direct engagement are vital for the climate transition. Key Moments 00:43 – Introduction: the geopolitical context, COP 30, and the Paris Agreement 02:24 – Karina's journey from urban regeneration to ethical investment 07:09 – The three pillars of successful climate governance 12:10 – What is climate governance and are corporate boards addressing it? 15:05 – The debate over standing your ground versus greenhushing 18:18 – The evolution and fracturing of Net Zero alliances 21:45 – Three ways institutional investors can empower boards 25:52 – The role of stewardship and internal investor alignment 28:50 – How to distinguish between advocacy and climate governance 30:56 – The elevator pitch for the Chapter Zero Alliance 32:35 – Board preparedness for AI and its environmental impact 37:41 – Art and sustainability: The story of Haitian oil drum artisans 41:30 – Quick fire questions 45:10 – Closing statements 📩 Like, comment, and subscribe to stay wired into the thinking shaping sustainable finance.