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In this episode of Precinct 444, host Josh Bronson sits down with the leadership behind the 30x30 Initiative, Co‑Founders Maureen “Mo” McGough and Chief Ivonne Roman (Ret.), along with Dr. Tanya Meisenholder, who now leads the initiative as it enters its fifth year. Together, they unpack the progress, lessons, and persistent misconceptions surrounding one of the most widely adopted and influential efforts in modern policing. The conversation explores how 30x30’s focus on advancing women in policing serves as a lens to identify deeper organizational challenges surrounding recruitment, retention, safety, and workplace health. Drawing from research, national partnerships, hands‑on agency work, and personal experience, the guests highlight how improving systems for women strengthens the profession as a whole. Listeners will gain insight into the initiative’s evolution, what it has revealed across hundreds of departments, and practical steps agencies can take today to build more inclusive, resilient, and effective organizations. Resources: • 30x30: What Works (https://30x30initiative.org/what-works/) • Police1: 30x30 Explained: Myths, Facts, and Public Safety Realities (https://www.police1.com/women-in-law-...) Featuring: • Josh Bronson, Host • Maureen “Mo” McGough • Chief Ivonne Roman (Ret.) • Dr. Tanya Meisenholder https://nleomf.org/museum/precinct-444/