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Suzanne Stabile on Calling, Transition, Doing the Next Right Thing, and the Wisdom of the Enneagram

👉 Download the free guide to clarify your best next step in transition: https://itstheinbetween.com/ In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Suzanne Stabile—Enneagram teacher, spiritual director, and author of The Road Back to You and The Journey Toward Wholeness. Often referred to as the "Enneagram Godmother," Suzanne has spent decades helping people see themselves more clearly and live more compassionately—especially through seasons of deep change. Suzanne shares how her own journey—from divorce and remarriage, to being blackballed from the Catholic Church, to co-creating Life in the Trinity Ministry—shaped the way she teaches, loves, and lets go. She reflects on what it means to be “called into ministry,” how that calling can evolve, and why we need to stop pretending that every spiritual or vocational assignment is forever. We talk about how relationships shift during transitions—why some friendships are seasonal, how the “present moment” stance can unintentionally give the wrong impression, and why letting go doesn’t have to mean it didn’t matter. She also speaks to the Enneagram as more than a personality tool—it’s a way to understand how we relate to others, especially when we’re disoriented, over-functioning, or defaulting to old survival strategies. Takeaways: 👉 Why the Golden Rule is a myth—and how the Enneagram teaches us to treat people the way they want to be treated. 👉 Suzanne’s deeply personal take on calling, grief, and how “doing the next right thing” became a lifeline. 👉 How orientation to time (past, present, or future) shapes our expectations in relationships—and sometimes leaves us hurt. 👉 “Every expectation is a resentment waiting to happen”—why friendships in transition feel so tender. 👉 The danger of over-promising in ministry seasons, and how unspoken expectations lead to relational confusion. 👉 Why everyone needs three companions: a spiritual director, a therapist, and a contemplative practice. 👉 “We weren’t made to flourish in someone else’s way.” Suzanne shares what flourishing looks like now—through aging, writing, and grandparenting. This episode is for anyone who’s navigating the loss of role-based identity, wondering how to discern what's theirs to carry forward, and longing for connection that’s rooted in presence, not performance. If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up 👍 , subscribe, and share it with your friends. 📝 Show Notes: https://itstheinbetween.com/episode22... Subscribe to my channel so you don't miss any of the newest episodes:    • The In-Between Podcast   ✅ CONNECT WITH ME: Instagram:   / theevandoyle   Chapters 0:00 – Introduction 1:06 – How Suzanne Met Joe 2:47 – Spiritual Disruption and Calling Father Rohr 4:22 – The Manuscript That Changed Everything 5:55 – Five Years of Study Before Teaching 6:52 – Enneagram And Everything: Suzanne’s Teaching Lens 8:53 – Why We Don’t All See the Same Thing 9:39 – The Golden Rule Is a Myth 10:16 – Why College Students Learn the Enneagram Faster 12:06 – Adoption, Abuse, and the Search for Belonging 14:03 – Marriage, Divorce, and Becoming a Coach 15:43 – Marrying Joe and the Pain of Unexpected Transitions 16:48 – Moving Five Times in Eight Years 17:27 – Retirement and the New Transitions of Aging 19:05 – Being Present as Grandparents 20:01 – Different Types, Different Ways of Transitioning 21:07 – Why Not All Relationships Are Forever 22:30 – Orientation to Time: Past, Present, or Future 23:50 – When Being Present Creates False Expectations 24:34 – Every Expectation Is Resentment Waiting to Happen 26:49 – How Stances Shape Relational Longevity 29:25 – Feeling, Thinking, Doing: A Primer on Enneagram Centers 33:01 – How Repressed Centers Sabotage Growth 36:42 – The Danger of One-Center Transitions 38:58 – False Expectations and Innocent Goodbyes 41:23 – What Happens When Only One Center Transitions 42:31 – Leaving Ministry Isn’t Always Leaving Ministry 44:00 – God’s Call Isn’t Always Forever 45:34 – Pastors Don’t Belong To the Church 46:38 – Rewriting the Narrative of a Call 47:55 – This Is Ministry, Too 50:32 – Rebuilding Version 1 or Creating Version 2.0? 51:53 – Why Everyone Needs a Spiritual Director, Therapist, and Sit 53:37 – Two Rocking Chairs and the Presence of God 55:22 – Teresa of Avila and the Interior Castle 58:01 – We Set Ourselves Up to Fail 58:43 – You Can’t Make God Love You More 59:57 – The Last Word of God Isn’t the Next 1:00:31 – What Flourishing Looks Like at 74 1:02:53 – Grief, Loss, and the Enneagram 1:04:22 – When You Can’t Flourish, You Respond in Excess 1:05:12 – Knowing What’s Yours to Do 1:06:17 – Joe’s Steady Presence Anchors the Family 1:07:41 – Where to Find Suzanne’s Work 1:09:04 – Doing What’s Yours to Do