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Martin Fowler Reflects on Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Martin Fowler joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code. Join them as Martin shares why he wrote Refactoring, how the art of refactoring has changed, and how he views the book's legacy! https://martinfowler.com/ -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code by Martin Fowler and Kent Beck https://amzn.to/4enmuox (paid link) The Art of Agile Development, 2nd Edition by James Shore and Shane Warden https://amzn.to/47TiM3D (paid link) Make No Law: The Sullivan Case and the First Amendment by Anthony Lewis https://amzn.to/3zJ3K3O (paid link) ---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:58 Motivation for writing the book 09:45 Refactoring, Extreme Programming, and testing 19:17 Estimating, Unknowns, and Complexity 23:40 Trust and High Performing Teams 30:32 refactoring in the wild: imitate, assimilate, innovate, best practices and sensible defaults 43:39 Legacy of the book and rational for second edition 47:35 What are the role of books now? Evergreen content, Long-form content in a world of short-form content. 01:03:21 Book Recommendations 01:09:12 Closing Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLC... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io