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The Myth of Progress and the Power of Uncertainty | Caroline Winterer | Re-Educated Podcast

In this conversation, I sit down with Caroline Winterer, a historian of early America and the history of ideas at Stanford University, to rethink what history actually is. We begin with a simple but profound shift: history is not something that lives outside of us in textbooks. It lives within us. The past flows through our cognition, shaping how we see time, progress, identity, and even ourselves. We talk about how historians construct narratives, why events are never self-evident, and how every historical frame is an interpretive lens rather than a neutral structure. From there, we explore the idea of progress. Caroline explains how progress itself is an invention of the Enlightenment, a relatively recent way of organizing time that differs from earlier decline narratives or cyclical views of history. We wrestle with whether humanity is truly moving forward, whether history repeats itself, and whether there are any real “laws” of history at all. What emerges is a powerful idea: the structures we place on the past deeply shape how we imagine the future. The conversation ultimately turns inward. We reflect on uncertainty, on the discomfort of not knowing where things are going, and on how historical thinking can actually expand rather than shrink our imagination. Instead of treating the past as a treasure chest of fixed answers, Caroline invites us to see it as a dark cave we explore together with small flashlights. History becomes not a memorization of facts, but a creative, collaborative act of meaning-making. In a world that craves certainty, this episode is an invitation to sit with uncertainty and let it deepen our understanding of ourselves and our place in time. Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction and Falling in Love with History 04:00 – What Is History and Why Study It? 09:00 – Math, Artifacts, and the History of Everything 13:00 – Can We Ever Truly Understand the Past? 16:00 – Enlightenment, Romanticism, and Naming Time Periods 22:00 – Time Zones, Calendars, and the Human Construction of Reality 27:00 – The Invention of Progress 31:00 – Are There Laws of History? 36:00 – Events, Narratives, and Historical Truth 41:00 – Teaching History as Creative Exploration 45:00 – Does History Repeat Itself? 49:00 – Imagination, Politics, and Framing the Past 53:00 – Uncertainty, Meaning, and Living Without a Script