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Longtime Chicago Symphony trumpeter (1964-1998), Will Scarlett began his studies with Arnold Jacobs in 1956. "Jacobs turned me around physically, the way Herseth turned me around musically." Mr. Scarlett described how Jacobs helped him to get away from the "tight gut" method and put him on the road to a more relaxed approach. Because of his surprisingly large lung capacity, Mr. Scarlett served as the impetus for Mr. Jacobs to embark on a research project identifying and cataloguing lung capacities as related to body somatotype (body shape). Scarlett shared his observations about Mr. Jacobs' pedagogical approach over his course of study. He also talked about his time as a member of the CSO trumpet section. Using imitation as a teaching/learning tool was also a part of the conversation. Herseth's and Jacobs' pre-concert practice habits was described. "Every time he (Herseth) took the horn out of his case and played a note, it was good enough for the concert." The most important part of the warm-up is not getting the lip going but rather turning the mind on. Scarlett talked about how the CSO brass section was a team. He also reflected upon other CSO colleagues such as Vincent Cichowicz and Ed Kleinhammer.