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Since Oct. 7, 22 year-old Palestinian-American influencer Hamzah Saadah has gained international notoriety for doing something that no mainstream news outlet would dare to do: asking regular Israelis what they think about Palestine. The results have been shocking, as Hamzah’s interviews with civilians and soldiers alike demonstrate a comfort and willingness to use “genocidal rhetoric” across Israeli society. Hamzah joined Mehdi for a live taping of ‘We’re Not Kidding’ at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah to discuss his work on social media and take some questions from the audience. Before Oct. 7, Hamzah was a gaming influencer, musician, and magician (yes, you read that right) with nearly 8 million followers across social media. But once Israel’s genocide began in Gaza, Hamzah made the decision to use his massive following to expose the anti-Palestinian rhetoric of some Israeli soldiers. The two also discuss: Receiving threats for their political work. Larry Ellison and censorship on TikTok. The time the police showed up at Hamzah’s house at 3:00am. How to change the minds of audiences. How old Mehdi is, again, and again, and again. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Opening montage 00:37 - Intro 1:47 - Hamzah’s social media platform 5:21 - Why Hamzah started chatting with Israelis 6:53 - Backlash and threats 9:27 - Defining your role 12:43 - Hamzah’s background 15:05 - What is the toll? 16:18 - TikTok and censorship 22:16 - Future goals Q&A 24:10 - What does “free Palestine” look like? 25:07 - Advice for younger generations in media? 27:04 - How can artists effect change? 30:36 - Positive stories? / Importance of allyship? 2026 Sundance Film Festival. Recorded at The Muslim House® Produced by the MPAC® Hollywood Bureau with the support of the Doris Duke Foundation. This interview was published 10 days earlier on Zeteo.com. If you want early access to exclusive content and hard-hitting, independent journalism, subscribe on Substack here: https://zeteo.com/subscribe Find Zeteo: Twitter: / zeteo_news Instagram: / zeteonews TikTok: / zeteonews Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/zeteo.com Find Mehdi: Substack: https://substack.com/@mehdirhasan Twitter: / @mehdirhasan Instagram: / @mehdirhasan Tik Tok: / mehdirhasan To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://advertising.libsyn.com/Zeteo