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Rodney “Darkchild” Jerkins has shaped the sound of music for over 25 years — from Say My Name to Deja Vu, Telephone, Stay With Me, and beyond. In this powerful conversation, he shares the mindset that took him from a basement in Jersey to producing for Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, and Sam Smith. But this isn’t just about the hits. It’s about belief before proof, taking risks before anyone’s watching, and how even legends need to step back and reset. Rodney opens up about his biggest breakthroughs, the behind-the-scenes moments that changed music history, and what every creative should know about AI, tech, and protecting the soul of their work. If you're a songwriter, producer, or dreamer in any field — this one will light a fire. 🔑 Topics: The real story behind Say My Name Working with Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, and Gaga Why belief matters more than talent How to stay inspired (even after burnout) AI, music tech, and what’s missing from today's process What every songwriter needs to know about their value Sponsored by SONA, DIMA, Amazon Music, and YoutTube Songwriters! Thank you for supporting us! Subscribe for more deep conversations with the world’s most impactful artists and creators. 💬 Drop your favorite moment in the comments — we read them all.