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This week, we’re joined by Anish Agarwal, CEO of Traversal, an AI-native site reliability platform helping teams detect, diagnose, and remediate incidents before they spiral into prolonged downtime. Anish shares how Traversal is tackling the full lifecycle of reliability work: identifying what caused an incident, determining which signals actually mattered during alert triage, and helping teams plan how their infrastructure should evolve over time. As modern systems grow more complex, spanning microservices, serverless, and multi-cloud environments, the surface area for failure continues to expand, especially as AI-generated code accelerates change faster than humans can reasonably keep up. We talk about why observability has produced some of the largest outcomes in software, why the traditional dashboard-first model is breaking down, and why the next generation of tooling needs agents that can search, reason over, and act on observability data, not just display it. Anish also breaks down where “self-healing systems” are real today, where expectations need to be reset, and why many AI-SRE products risk building faster horses instead of rethinking the experience entirely. Episode chapters: 1:50 — Anish’s background and early building 2:30 — The origins of SRE and why it emerged 8:40 — Research-driven thinking in product and engineering 10:07 — Building for large enterprise environments 13:00 — AI-driven code and the growing infrastructure surface area 16:11 — Preparing infrastructure for an AI-native future 20:10 — Fear, trust, and operating critical systems 23:05 — From detection to automated action 24:20 — How the SRE role is changing 26:05 — Hiring and building the right team 29:08 — Raising capital from Sequoia and KP 32:38 — Reflections and lessons learned 35:50 — Quick-fire round This episode is brought to you by Grata, the leading deal sourcing platform for private equity. Grata’s AI powered search, investment grade data, and intuitive workflows help you find and win the right deals faster. Visit grata.com to book a demo. This episode is also sponsored by Overlap, the AI powered app that uses LLMs to surface the best moments from any podcast. Overlap reads full transcripts, finds the most relevant clips, and stitches them into a personalized stream of insights. Tap into podcasts as a real information source with Overlap 2.0, now available on the App Store.