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Kevin walks through the recent—and highly relevant—details of US vs Heppner. In this landmark case, a federal judge ruled that a client’s use of Claude, an open AI platform, is not protected. As Kevin explains, the court determined that using the AI to “do his own research” exposed the client and waived protections so that neither the attorney-client privilege nor the work product doctrine applied. Hear about why communications with open AI platforms like Claude, Gemini, or ChatGPT aren’t confidential; how courts analyze whether a client is seeking legal advice via AI; and practical steps for attorneys and clients in the era of generative AI. This episode is essential listening for lawyers, compliance officers, and legal tech adopters who want to avoid costly mistakes and leverage AI responsibly. If you rely on AI to assist your legal work—or plan to—listen in. ______________________________________________________________ 00:00 Introduction to AI and Legal Privilege 02:50 The Case of US v. Heppner 07:24 Judge Rakoff's Ruling on Attorney-Client Privilege 19:25 Work Product Doctrine and Its Implications