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Are award shows like the Oscars and Spirit Awards becoming irrelevant? Film industry veterans John Wildman and Justina Walford get brutally honest about why even film professionals have stopped watching, the elitist disconnect from true independent cinema, and the shocking truth about film students who can't sit through entire movies anymore. In this candid conversation, we discuss: Why the Spirit Awards felt lifeless and disconnected from real indie filmmaking The death of "true" independent film at major festivals How films under $500K get ignored while $40M "indies" sweep awards The attention span crisis hitting film schools (students won't even watch The Conversation!) Why modern storytelling needs to adapt without losing its soul Plus: A passionate defense of Heated Rivalry and what it teaches us about engagement Whether you're a filmmaker, film student, or just someone who loves cinema, this is a conversation about where the industry is headed and why the old guard is losing touch. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Intro: Why We're Finally Doing This 0:27 - The Spirit Awards Were Painfully Boring 3:35 - When Award Shows Mattered (And Why They Don't Anymore) 6:48 - The "Independent Film" Lie: $40M Budgets at Indie Awards? 9:19 - Only 3 Films Under $500K? The John Cassavetes Award Scandal 12:20 - Why Most Americans Don't Watch Award Shows Anymore 14:27 - The 3-Hour Movie Problem (We're All Exhausted) 19:24 - RIP Bud Cort: A True Original Movie Star 21:29 - The Attention Span Crisis in Film Schools 22:12 - Film Professors Can't Get Students to Watch Entire Movies 24:24 - The Heated Rivalry Phenomenon: What Actually Holds Attention 27:10 - YouTube Easter Egg Culture vs. Can't-Finish-A-Movie Culture 32:41 - How Technology Changed Film Storytelling Forever 34:13 - The Future: Kill Your Babies & Respect Your Audience VISIT US: 📰 FilmsGoneWild.com - Your source for authentic independent film coverage 🎥 Real festival coverage, real filmmakers, real budgets MENTIONED: Spirit Awards 2025 The Conversation (Francis Ford Coppola) Harold and Maude (Bud Cort tribute) Heated Rivalry (HBO) Galaxy of Terror (Roger Corman) #IndependentFilm #FilmIndustry #AwardShows #Oscars #SpiritAwards #FilmMaking #MoviePodcast #FilmCriticism #AttentionSpan #IndieFilm #FilmFestivals #Sundance #FilmSchool #MovieReview #A24 #Neon #FilmTwitter #FilmsGoneWild #CinemaLovers #TrueIndependent