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What does it mean to spiral—and is it actually possible to find blessings amid devastating loss? On today’s episode of The Greg Laurie Show, Pastor Greg welcomes author and pastor Levi Lusko for an honest—and often humorous—conversation about grief, calling, leadership, and the surprising ways faith can sustain us through the worst life has to offer. Together, Pastor Greg and Levi trace their family’s intertwined journeys through ministry, loss, and redemption. From the nostalgia of swapping cassette tapes and youth ministry war stories to the raw pain of losing a child or parent, the two open up about suffering, resilience, and the pursuit of God’s purpose in real life. This conversation is both a balm for broken hearts and an encouragement for leaders, parents, or anyone wondering how to move forward when life gets overwhelming. Find Levi’s book on loss, Through the Eyes of a Lion, here: https://levilusko.com/through-the-eye.... Check out Blessed are the Spiraling here: https://www.blessedarethespiraling.com/. -------- Want more from Greg Laurie? Visit: https://harvest.org/. Find Pastor Greg on social media: / greglaurie https://x.com/greglaurie / harvest.greglaurie Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us. -------- TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 How a Missed Mentorship Changed Everything 02:33 First Meeting: From Fan to Friend 04:33 Youth Ministry: “If You Can Preach to Teens…” 06:38 Choosing Montana Over Harvest: Defining Your Calling 08:05 Walking Through Grief: The Loss of Christopher 12:05 “Seeing Through the Eyes of a Lion”: Lenya’s Legacy 14:09 Navigating Grief: Guilt, Healing, and Connection 16:33 Losing His Dad: “A Different Kind of Grief” 17:51 Writing About Pain: Impact Beyond Tragedy 18:25 “Success Builds Walls, Failure Builds Bridges” 21:44 How Personal Loss Changed Pastoral Ministry 22:09 Honoring Lost Loved Ones by Healing 23:50 Brokenness, Empathy, and Leadership Growth 24:20 Separating Grief: The Laundry Pile Analogy 26:14 Hope in Heartbreak: “They’re Not Lost If You Know Where They Are” 29:09 Parenting and Calling: Raising Kids in Ministry 31:09 Marriage & Hydration: Keeping Relationships Alive 32:27 “Intimacy Is Into-Me-You-See”: Wisdom for Newlyweds 35:20 Message Prep: Connections, Curiosity & “Move It or Lose It” 37:45 Preaching & Writing: The Unique Joys of Both 39:46 Writing Habits: Seinfeld, Deadlines, and Staying Creative 43:06 Staying Faithful: Why I Chose My Church Over Big Offers 45:23 New Book: “Blessed Are the Spiraling” and Midlife Crisis 47:38 From Fire to Significance: Shifting Life’s Focus 51:25 Movement Conference: Investing in the Next Generation 53:18 Learning to Champion Others, Not Compete 55:12 What’s Changed in Reaching Young People 58:16 “Make Your Bed”: Keystone Habits & Authentic Leadership 59:45 The Power of Challenge, Not Coddling 01:00:19 Last Meal? In-N-Out & Good Coffee 01:01:11 Movies, Heroes, and Becoming Yoda 01:02:19 Pulpit Bloopers: Unusual Booty and Other Slip-Ups 01:05:08 Hope, Legacy, and What’s Next ________ Thank you for watching! Be sure to like and subscribe so you are notified as soon as a new video arrives. Get exclusive content on the Harvest+ Streaming App, including Harvest Films, TV shows and hundreds of messages from Pastor Greg Laurie. Available on Apple iOS, Android, Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Google TV, and Samsung TV! Watch here: https://watch.harvest.org/ To support the ministry of Pastor Greg Laurie and help us continue to reach people with the life-changing message of Jesus Christ, visit here https://harvest.org/donate/