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If you can’t find good crew leaders — it’s not luck, it’s a system. In this episode we pull back the curtain on hiring, onboarding, and keeping quality people in landscaping and tree care. Learn the real experiments that worked (and the ones that didn’t). What you’ll get: practical hiring tactics, screening rules that actually matter, onboarding & training tips, culture & retention strategies — plus details on the new Landscape Rodeo event in February. Want more leads, systems, and guest episodes like this? Subscribe to the channel and check the show links below. 👉 https://www.milliondollarlandscaper.c... Scott talks with Jason Lee (Skyfrog Landscape) and Jordan Upcavage (Independent Tree Service / Greenside Up Podcast) about how they find crew members, screen applicants (driver’s license + drug test), onboard and train crews, and build a culture people want to stay in. They share hands-on hiring experiments (Craigslist, Team Engine, referrals, hiring a dedicated recruiter), ongoing training routines, and practical perks that actually move the retention needle. They also preview the inaugural Landscape Rodeo — Feb 20 in St. Augustine. Top takeaways The owner sets the hiring standard — don’t blame the labor market. Simple screens (valid driver’s license + pre-employment drug test) eliminate most headaches. Never stop hiring; hire slowly, fire fast for culture fit. Short, regular training (15–30 mins) + quarterly deep sessions improve quality and retention. Culture is built with real investment (healthcare, CPR training, clear roles), not gimmicks. Resources & links Podcast & main site: https://www.milliondollarlandscaper.c... Work with Lead Speed / Free strategy call: https://leadspeed.io/strategy-call Landscape Rodeo (Feb 20, St. Augustine) — register/learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com Greenside Up Podcast: https://greensideuppodcast.com Follow the Landscape Rodeo on social: @thelandscaperodeo (IG / TikTok / FB) Timecodes 0:00 Intro – The biggest problem in the green industry 0:03:21 Jason Lee introduces Skyfrog Landscape 0:04:58 Skyfrog's lofty growth and sales goals 0:06:28 How to manage staff during the winter slowdown 0:08:34 Jordan Upcavage introduces his specialized tree service 0:10:36 How Jordan rebuilt the company from a mutiny 0:17:15 Where to find new employees today 0:20:28 The new mantra: Never stop hiring 0:21:20 Lessons learned from hiring any available heartbeat 0:23:47 Two non-negotiable filters for quality people 0:26:03 The drug test as a problem-solving litmus test 0:32:25 Developing a continuous employee onboarding project 0:35:17 Implementing quarterly continuing education training 0:40:51 Solve the ghosting problem by hiring a recruiter 0:43:57 The best source for quality hires: Employee referrals 0:46:06 Why the hiring bottleneck is always the owner 0:48:10 The simple truth about getting quality staff 0:51:15 Eliminating toxic leadership for better retention 0:56:35 Genuine acts that build great company culture 1:01:14 Introducing the Landscape Rodeo equipment competition 1:07:47 Final thoughts and where to follow the guests =================== Podcast Sponsors Cycle CPA: Green Industry Accounting 👉 http://mdl.coach/cpa Green Frog Marketing: Landscaper Websites & SEO 👉 http://mdl.coach/greenfrog ==================== Connect with Scott Molchan Facebook: / milliondollarlandscaper Instagram: / milliondollarlandscaper YouTube: / @milliondollarlandscaper ==================== Disclaimer Please see our full disclaimer policy here: https://www.milliondollarlandscaper.c... #LandscapingBusiness #LandscaperHiring #LawnCareMarketing #MillionDollarLandscaper #LandscapeRodeo #GreenIndustry