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Ten years ago, I was living in a toxic dynamic where I felt brainwashed, isolated, and stamped by my past. I didn't know I could say no. In a moment of desperation, I sent an anonymous question to the "Ask Science Mike" podcast—and Rob Bell answered it. In this episode of the It's Both, I’m sharing the deeply personal story behind that question. We explore the journey from people-pleasing to self-respect, and how to hold the tension of being "loving" while still having boundaries that protect your peace. I’m sharing the transcript of that original question, Rob Bell’s life-changing advice, and how it shifted my entire life direction. In this video, we cover: The reality of healing from 62 trauma and emotional abuse Why I felt "scared and free" at the same time How to stop responding out of trauma responses The difference between being selfish and having 49 healthy boundaries If you’ve ever felt torn between your faith, your relationships, and your own mental health, this story is for you. #traumahealing #robbell #boundaries #toxicrelationships #itsbothpodcast #emotionalintelligence ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 — Overthinking & the Question I Was Afraid to Ask 02:10 — What My Life Looked Like 10 Years Ago 05:15 — When Faith, Love, and Boundaries Collide 08:40 — Reading the Original Question I Sent to Ask Science Mike 12:05 — Rob Bell’s Response: Why Boundaries Aren’t Selfish 16:30 — From Overthinking to Both/And Clarity 19:45 — How This Shift Changed My Relationships and Decisions 23:10 — The Ripple Effects I Didn’t Expect 26:00 — The Full-Circle Moment: Having Rob Bell on It’s Both 28:10 — If You’re Stuck in Overthinking Right Now 🙋♀️ About Me (Nikki P) Therapist-turned-storyteller & nonprofit leader hosting It’s Both — Personal growth for real-life transitions. I help you build emotional intelligence, make kinder decisions, and find peace in the messy middle—without toxic positivity. 🔗 Listen / Follow / Work With Me • Join the Courageous Living Group Transformation: https://janiceholland.thrivecart.com/... • 🎙️ Podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... • 🎙️ Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KYLGul... • 📺 Subscribe on YouTube: → / @itsbothpodcast • 📸 Instagram: / itsbothpodcast • 💼 Speaking/partnerships: itsbothpodcast@gmail.com 💬 Try This (Quick Wins) Name the both/and you’re feeling. Set a 10-minute “clarity block” to sit with it. Take one tiny action aligned with your values. 🤝 Support the Show If this helped, subscribe, like, and comment with your biggest takeaway. Share this with someone who’s living in the gray. Rate & review the podcast on Apple—your words help new listeners find us!