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Behind the scenes, every few minutes, the ERCOT system generates tens of thousands of price signals, outage updates, and operational reports that demonstrate and drive the cost and availability of electricity. Most of that data is public. But how can Texans access it? This week, Joshua Rhodes talks with Max Kanter, chief executive officer of GridStatus, about the gap between public data and practical visibility and application, and why that matters in Texas. In this episode, they discuss: Why public grid data is harder to use than it would seem. What real-time pricing signals reveal about system stress. How outage and congestion data shape ERCOT debates. There are more than 70,000 pricing nodes across U.S. energy markets, updating every five minutes. ERCOT alone produces enormous volumes of operational data.Those signals often spotlight stresses on the system before they show up in prices and control rooms. As Texas adds new industrial loads and faces continued risks from extreme weather, more policymakers, analysts, and large customers want to know what’s coming. They’re looking for distress signals. On this week’s episode, Josh and Max tell you where to find them – and what to do with them. Timestamps 00:06 – Welcome, Max Kanter intro 02:00 – Computer science, AI shifts 03:32 – What is GridStatus? 04:36 – What users see first 05:31 – Who uses GridStatus today 06:56 – Tiers, hobbyists, accessibility 07:52 – AI tools, new builders 09:47 – Why a business existed 12:49 – Early demand validated product 14:18 – From carbon to markets 16:44 – Data scale, nodal pricing map 32:20 – Flip script, Rhodes on public role Resources Guest & Company• Max Kanter - LinkedIn ( / jmaxkanter ) • Grid Status (https://www.gridstatus.io/) - LinkedIn ( / grid-status ) Company & Industry News• The power grid is hard to understand. This startup is trying to help. (https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/...) • Why We Invested in Grid Status (https://www.energizecap.com/news-insi...) Related Podcasts by TEAP• The New Rules Behind ERCOT Prices with Andrew Reimers (https://www.texasenergyandpower.com/p...) • Who Pays for Texas Grid Growth? - Roundtable Discussion (https://www.texasenergyandpower.com/p...) • Texas’ Load Growth Challenges – And Opportunities, with Arushi Sharma Frank (https://www.texasenergyandpower.com/p...) Transcript Joshua Rhodes (00:05.778) everyone, and welcome to the Energy Capital podcast. I am really excited to have Max Cantor, CEO of GridStatus on today to just talk about data, all the data that are coming off the grid and everything like that. If you’re steeped in grids, you’ve probably heard of GridStatus, you’ve probably seen at least a screenshot of dashboards and things like that floating around social media. But one of the things I wanted to bring to this podcast was to kind of dig a little bit deeper into some of the more technical side of things. And I promised all Joshua Rhodes (00:35.278) I’d be listeners that I wouldn’t completely bore you to tears with data, but we are going to talk about it a little bit because it is so important. So we have Max Cantor on. has a bachelor’s and a master’s of computer science from MIT. And I don’t usually name check theses, but this one actually caught my eye. So his master’s thesis was the data science machine emulating human intelligence in data science endeavors, which sounds like a harbinger of basically AI. We’ll get back to that here in a bit. Joshua Rhodes (01:05.294) He started off as CEO and co-founder of Feature Labs, which was acquired by Alteryx in 2019. At that point, was the VP of Engineering at Alteryx for the next couple of years before going back to MIT as a visiting scholar in the Data to AI lab, where at that time when he was at MIT, launched Grid Status in August of 2022. And the tagline, or at least the one that’s on his socials is, the future of the electric grid runs on data and AI. Grid Status provides Joshua Rhodes (01:34.562) data and insights for the understanding, investing and operating of the electrical grid. And our goal is to be the most trusted source for whatever is happening on the grid. Max Kanner, welcome to the Energy Capital Podcast. Max Kanter (01:47.522) Thank you, Joshua. Happy to be here. Joshua Rhodes (01:49.452) Yeah, I should probably say full disclosure, I’m actually a client as well. So I have a subscription to GridStatus. So thank you for making it so easy to get all of these data. Max Kanter (01:58.456) Yeah, that was the goal from the very beginning. Joshua Rhodes (02:00.46) Yeah, no, I think it’s worked out quite a bit. It’s ...