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Greg Brockman—OpenAI cofounder and Stripe's first engineer—joins John Collison to talk about research-driven product development, an early moment he thought OpenAI was doomed, S curves in AI advancement, and energy bottlenecks. Full transcript on Substack: https://substack.com/@cheekypint/note... Subscribe to Cheeky Pint YouTube: • Cheeky Pint Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2IHbGJJ... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Substack: https://substack.com/@cheekypint/ Key moments 00:00 Intro 02:51 Was OpenAI the first company to take the scaling hypothesis seriously? 04:53 Lessons from Dota about deep learning 08:08 What is a good new Turing test? 08:57 Personalization in AI 09:57 Research-driven product development 10:26 An early moment OpenAI felt doomed 15:01 OS limits on AI product development 17:59 When will AI make novel advancements in math or science? 20:03 Energy bottlenecks 22:30 S curves in AI advancement 24:00 AI coding 26:25 Refactoring as a killer AI use case 27:26 How OpenAI decides what products to built 28:53 Growing up in North Dakota 30:17 How far away is AGI?