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Nels Abbey is a writer, broadcaster and former banker, and the author of Think Like A White Man. His new book, The Hip-Hop MBA: Lessons in Cut-Throat Capitalism From The Moguls of Rap, is out in 2024. We discuss his views on race and racism in the UK, Western imperialism, whether colonialism is truly over, the moral complexities of past historical events, "reverse Euro-centrism," and why it's difficult to imagine that an ethnic minority can hold non-mainstream views and still be successful. Follow our guest / nelsabbey Follow The Host: / inayafolarin More videos from The Equiano Project: • Eric Kaufmann on the concept of "woke" • "We Are Taught That Difficulties Make You ... Chat with us: / equianoproject / theequianoproject / theequianoproject The Equiano Project is a platform that highly values diverse viewpoints. We actively seek to feature a wide range of guests on our show, regardless of their political affiliations or ideological leanings. While the opinions of our guests may not always align entirely with ours, it doesn't deter us from pursuing meaningful conversations. We aim to approach complex and sensitive matters with a commitment to reason, compassion, intellectual ambition, and curiosity. Find out more about our work and values: https://www.theequianoproject.com/about Music:Warped by Light, Musician:Jay Varton, Album:Jay Varton, Source:https://www.vcg.com/ 0:00 Intro 3:27 Nels' Background 8:10 Nels' view on racism and race 12:06 Ethnicity vs Tribe 16:21 Division of nations 22:24 Blaming Colonialism and racism 25:40 "Reverse Euro-centrism" 30:17 Inaya's trip to Poland 34:10 Empire and slavery 40:30 How colonialism worked 42:47 Present day Britain 51:04 "14 important words"