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What does it actually take to create moments that stick? In this behind-the-scenes conversation, SALT Conference host Joseph "Sojo" Sojourner (yes, that Sojo from Dude Perfect) and producer Seth Bartlett pull back the curtain on what it really takes to create events that people come back to year after year. In this episode you'll learn: Why imperfect moments connect with audiences more than polished ones How to build a creative culture where people feel safe enough to take risks The programming principle that separates memorable events from forgettable ones Why "riding the wave" is the best way to think about hosting How to lead a room full of people who can see everything - and still win them over Whether you plan a Sunday service, a conference, or any live event - this conversation is packed with practical wisdom you can use immediately. 🎟️ SALT 2026 tickets are now available at salt2026.com — Dallas, TX this Oct 14-16