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What does kindness really mean in a world that often rewards hardness, boundaries, and self-protection? In this intimate and reflective conversation, author Lara Latcham joins Dawn Bates for a live discussion inspired by Lara’s novel Estella, exploring the power, complexity, and courage of kindness, both towards others and towards ourselves. Together, they ask questions many of us quietly wrestle with: Can you be too kind? Who actually benefits from kindness? How does kindness shape how others see us, and how we see ourselves? What happens when we choose not to be kind? One of the most powerful moments of the conversation comes as Lara shares her belief that kindness should not be conditional. Even when people appear undeserving, kindness can still be a conscious choice, because we never truly know the wounds, experiences, or histories that have shaped someone’s behaviour. This isn’t a conversation about being passive, naïve, or tolerating harm. It’s about choosing humanity over judgement, compassion over assumption, and learning how kindness, especially towards ourselves, can be a quiet but radical act. Highlights include: Lara’s reflections on kindness as strength, not weakness The emotional themes behind Estella Why self-kindness is often the hardest and most necessary practice How everyday acts of kindness can shift relationships, perspectives, and inner peace Whether you’re navigating relationships, leadership, healing, or simply trying to live with more intention, this conversation invites you to pause, reflect, and consider how kindness shows up in your life. Order a signed copy of Estella https://geni.us/estella-a-novel We’d love to hear from you: What does kindness mean to you, especially when it feels difficult?