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Shame, guilt, and addiction don’t have to define your story. In this episode, Donna Marston welcomes Dr. Tom Horvath, a board-certified clinical psychologist, co-founder of SMART Recovery, and pioneer in science-based addiction support. Together, they explore the role of shame and guilt, why recovery is not one-size-fits-all, and how families can support a loved one without losing themselves in the process. Dr. Horvath shares decades of insight on self-empowered recovery, alternatives to the traditional “rock bottom” narrative, and practical tools families can use to create healthier dynamics. This conversation offers hope, clarity, and reassurance for anyone navigating addiction, whether personally or through someone they love. Topics Covered: The difference between shame and guilt and how each impacts recovery Why there are many valid pathways to recovery SMART Recovery vs. 12-step programs The importance of choice and self-empowerment in healing How families can support recovery without controlling it Common myths about addiction and “rock bottom” Practical ways to communicate with a loved one in treatment Building a meaningful life beyond addiction About the Guest Dr. Tom Horvath is a board-certified clinical psychologist, Navy veteran, and internationally recognized expert in addiction recovery. He is the co-founder and former president of SMART Recovery, a science-based, self-empowering recovery network, and the founder of Practical Recovery in San Diego. Dr. Horvath is also the author of Sex, Drugs, Gambling, and Chocolate, a practical workbook for overcoming addictive behaviors. Quotes: “A little guilt can help us change, but too much shame keeps us stuck.” “Recovery works best when people have a choice.” “There isn’t one right way to recover, only the way that works for you.” 🔗 Guest Resources: Website: https://smartrecovery.org/ 👉 Learn more about Donna’s work and resources at sharingwithoutshame.com Grab my free "5 Boundaries and Breakthrough" Guide. here: https://sharing-with-out-shame.kit.com/690... Sponsors: Experience Inner Peace with Calming Therapy Bracelets Website: https://snappbandz.com/ Use SWOS or SharingWithoutShame code Learn more: https://linktr.ee/Sharingwithoutshame Thank you for tuning in! May your faith and strength heal your heart.