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As we continue to explore the debate, LED's vs HPS, I am going to share my ultimate conclusion: HID based systems dominate LED's hands down. No matter how you slice it, the HPS system I have recently implemented dominates the LED system that it replaced. The difference in plant growth has just been night and day and we have been able to achieve these results using less overall wattage. Cooling requirements remain the same for both systems and the versatility gained by the LED does not make up for the versatility that the HID systems have, mainly dimability, When cost is factored in, LEDs are just a product for jokers and I feel sorry for people that use/endorse them. I am sure much higher end LEDs exist that are much better than the ones I tested, but I doubt even the best LED system could compete with the WORST possible HID system watt for watt. Hope the info is useful.