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In this rich, sensory journey through the Eternal City, I sit down with food historian and author Katie Parla, whose love affair with Rome began at sixteen thanks to her mother’s quiet act of generosity. That first high school Latin trip became a lifelong devotion to the flavors, history, and soul of a city that was never meant to exist. Rome began as a malarial swamp and became the beating heart of civilization through persistence, creativity, and community. Katie has written or contributed to more than twenty books and countless articles for The New York Times, Vogue, and The Guardian. Her newest work, Rome: A Culinary History Cookbook and Field Guide to the Flavors That Built a City, is not just another cookbook. It’s a love letter to the spirit of a place that has endured famine, fire, empire, and rebirth. Together, we explore what Rome can teach us about leadership, gratitude, and the art of being human in a fast, AI-driven world. We begin, as all gratitude stories do, at the table. Katie gives thanks to her mother, “Jojo,” who worked multiple jobs to make that first trip to Rome possible. Through her mother’s sacrifice, she learned perseverance—the same relentless spirit that built the city she now calls home. From there, we wander through Rome’s neighborhoods, from the ancient core to Testaccio, where graffiti, terracotta ruins, and street food collide in the most honest reflection of Roman life. History becomes a mirror for modern leadership. We talk about Rome’s “bread and circuses,” how emperors used food and spectacle to keep people loyal, and how leaders today use culture and care to keep teams engaged. We revisit the wisdom of “be a Caesar, not an Augustus,” and explore what it means to lead with dignity rather than dominance. Along the way, Katie reveals why Rome’s systems—from aqueducts to bakeries—were always designed to sustain people, not just power. Rome’s magic lies in its contradictions: war and peace, tragedy and triumph, speed and stillness. It teaches us to hold two truths at once—to accept what’s broken while celebrating what’s beautiful. In our current age of convenience, Rome reminds us of the value of friction, imperfection, and human effort. We end where Romans always gather: around food. Not just the postcard classics like carbonara or amatriciana, but the soulful, working-class dishes—involtini, chicken cacciatore, and fettuccine with gizzards—that speak to endurance and ingenuity. Katie’s approach to cooking, and to life, comes down to three simple words: just enough. By the end of our conversation, one theme rises above all: dignity. From her mother’s resilience to the bakers, butchers, and chefs who open their kitchens to strangers, Katie’s gratitude extends to everyone who never gave up. “Leave so much time in Rome unplanned,” she says. “Dare to have an adventure.” It’s not just travel advice—it’s a philosophy for living. Katie’s independently published masterpiece Rome: A Culinary History Cookbook and Field Guide to the Flavors That Built a City is available at shop.katieparla.com . You can find her Rome travel guides, restaurant recommendations, and food tours at katieparla.com , and follow her everyday adventures on Instagram at @katieparla . To explore more stories of gratitude, connection, and leadership, visit 747club.org and join our growing community.