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In this special episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy welcomes Chris Inglis, former National Cyber Director and career public servant, to delve into a wide-ranging conversation about cybersecurity leadership, public service, and life lessons. Chris shares his career journey from the Air Force Academy to piloting planes and serving at the NSA, providing unique insights along the way. They discuss the importance of integrating technology with business strategy, handling insider threats, and the future of AI in cybersecurity. Plus, enjoy some heartwarming stories about the power of culture and the joys of being grandparents. 00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement 01:08 Background and Career Beginnings 03:16 The Purpose of Power in Public Service 06:14 Building and Leading Organizations 11:38 The Role of CISOs in Business 17:41 Transition to Government Service 22:12 Lessons from the Snowden Incident 27:42 Uncovering Snowden's Tactics 28:13 Holistic Security Approach 29:47 The Future of Insider Threats 30:46 AI's Role in Security 31:49 Human Accountability in AI 33:12 Innovative Approaches to AI 34:22 Generative AI and Human Interaction 36:52 The Role of CSOs in AI 41:41 Personal Reflections and Career Insights 46:15 Grandchildren Stories and AI 50:23 Final Thoughts and Reflections