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The Commission and EP would like to impose a 40% quota for women on the boards of directors of private companies by 2020. This discrimination is seen as positive by some and pointless by others. EuroparlTV investigated in Germany and Italy, both traditionally conservative countries. Christiane Hipp is a woman who focuses on her career. She's an exception here in Germany where women make up only 3.5% of directors on the board of private companies. Since May 2012, she's been part of the supervisory board of Cewecolor, a photo printing company located in Dresden in the southeast of Germany. In the past, Cewecolor just had men on their advisory board and they opened it up. It's a very innovative company which challenged change. But it's not so easy for a woman to carve herself a spot on a board of directors in Germany. Traditionally, a woman's place is in the home. I think women do also decide a bit more with the heart than with the brain. Photography is also a very emotional subject and emotions perhaps didn't have a role in our company until now. Perhaps it's being improved by this influence, by the female influence. There's emotion, but also hormones. Can you feel the testosterone in the board sometimes? We've got... Yes, I think the way they work together has changed a little bit. I don't know, because I wasn't there before. But they really care about us and they're probably more friendly. We head to Cottbus where Christiane is a university professor. One of her challenges is juggling her family life and her professional life. It's difficult, but I have clear priorities. For example, if you have a meeting after 5 or 6pm, I often go earlier to be at home for at least two or three hours having time with my family, and then I start working again. A paradox in current education is that often over 50% of graduates are women. Unfortunately they're not to be found in the top jobs in companies. In spite of this, Christiane is against the idea of quotas. I want to be selected on the performance I'm giving and the competences I have, and not just for being a woman and then being treated like a woman who's not able to understand anything. Unlike Christiane, Angelika Niebler, a German MEP, considers that this policy has led the way. For her, quotas are the way to go. Quotas can help to encourage women also to take on responsibilities. So it's not the only way, but I think it's a clear indication from society that we also want women taking on responsibility and for that I support it. We go to Italy where women sometimes suffer intolerable pressures. Stefania Boleso worked for 10 years as marketing director in a large food company. In 2009 after having a child she was forced to leave the company. It was not possible to fire me because my daughter was not yet one year old and because of my professional contract, but primarily because of my daughter. They told me, 'We're offering you some money. Accept the offer and quit.' For her, the doors of her company closed without warning on her return from maternity leave. That's the reality for many women in Italy. If they let you back, you won't have the opportunity to grow professionally. Luckily there are exceptions, but this happens in most cases. You will just be parked in a corner as if your brain had gone up in smoke after you had given birth. Stefania has chosen the path of self-employment in order to avoid this way of thinking. At the Catholic University of Milan she prepares her students for the world of top-level marketing, thanks to her experience. I consider them as people. Men or women, I try to teach them a single message. It's a message of meritocracy. Also relying on their merits are the 800 women taking part in free courses. They're preparing to join boards thanks to the quotas introduced by a national law that has just been voted. What is better than a woman who is part of a board of directors, who looks at other women with interest and who understands the importance of having a crèche in the company, enabling women to be serene whilst at work? It's a virtuous circle that must - and I am sure it will - create jobs. Prepared and determined, women are ready to seize the opportunity offered by the new directive imposing a quota of 40% women by 2020. EuroparlTV video ID: 40b69ade-7ab0-45a0-ab87-a12d00df3b66