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Can you be friends with the boss or the people that you lead? In this episode Shelley Johnson chats with Steph Clarke who has a Substack called How To Friend, about the messy, beautiful, and sometimes awkward world of workplace friendships. 1:48 - Steph’s interest in studying friendship and starting How to Friend 4:30 - can you be friends with the boss? 12:58 - perceptions of favouritism 15:40 - proximity, frequency, and why it's normal for work friendships to fade 19:30 - the foundation for good work friendships 20:51 - energy giving vs energy draining behaviours 23:56 - identifying oversharing and emotional hijacking 37:54 - showing your best self vs whole self at work 33:12 - defining friendship 48:21 - Shell's thoughts on work friendships Connect with Steph on LinkedIn here: / steph-clarke Subscribe to Steph's Substack, How To Friend: https://howtofriend.substack.com/ #thisiswork #leadership #friendshipatwork #workculture #career #futureofwork #boldside #stephclarke #shelljohnson If you lead teams, check out Shelley’s business, Boldside: https://www.boldside.com.au/ Shell & Glen’s book 'Sort Your Career Out & Make More Money' is available here: https://amzn.to/4k3YSrr We hate email spam so we don’t create it! Sign up to our newsletter to get only the valuable money, careers and property info you need: https://email.moneypodcast.com.au/ To get help, and to check out our online courses, books, resources and downloads (+ our disclaimers and warnings), click here: https://www.moneypodcast.com.au/work