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Mike Krieger is the Co-Founder of Instagram and now CPO @ Anthropic. ---------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode We Discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:50) Where Will Value Be Created and Sustained in a World of AI? (01:40) Are Foundation Models Commoditised Today? (04:31) Should Founders Build for the Models of Today or Build for Models of the Future (06:55) Why Will Models Become More Different Than More Similar (12:59) Will Human or Synthetic Data Be More Prominent in the Future (18:02) Model Quality vs. Product UX (20:12) The Competitive Landscape of AI (31:49) Do We Underestimate China's AI Capabilities (33:31) What Did Anthropic Learn from Deepseek (34:44) Is Deepseek a Sustaining and Credible Threat? (38:09) Transitioning from Model Provider to Application Provider (43:44) What is the Role of a Software Developer in the Future (48:31) Balancing API and Consumer Products (52:25) Is Europe Stronger or Weaker in a World of AI (52:59) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: / harrystebbings Follow Mike Krieger on X: / mikeyk Follow 20VC on Instagram: / 20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: / 20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #mikekrieger #anthropic #cpo #ai #openai #deepseek