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Franck Zanu of @FranckZanu joins the State of the Nation for one of the most explosive and thought-provoking conversations we’ve had all year. Zanu — whose viral insights on Africa, culture, development and geopolitics have sparked global debate — confronts the ideas many leaders avoid: • Why African countries continue to struggle economically • What “culture” really means for development • Why corruption isn’t the true root cause • How colonialism is misunderstood • Why South Africa’s political structure is destined for conflict • The controversial “tribal nation” model he believes could save the continent • And why Western countries secretly want Africa to succeed This is not a conversation about blaming or excuses. It’s a conversation about responsibility, culture, identity, and hard truths. If you care about Africa’s future, South Africa’s political direction, or global geopolitics — you will not forget this episode. ✨ Tell us in the comments: Is Franck Zanu right or wrong? SPONSOR Thank you to Pace Car Rental for supporting this episode. Use code SONA for a discount on your next rental. FOLLOW US TikTok, Instagram, X, and Facebook: @sonacoza Produced by Stream IN Studios https://www.streamin.co.za Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: Franck Zanu joins State of the Nation 02:25 – Sound issue fixed & restart 03:44 – Should South Africa be part of the G20? 05:25 – What is really holding Africa back? 06:48 – Culture vs development: Zanu’s core argument 08:27 – “Is Africa being held back?” Zanu’s controversial answer 09:07 – Does Africa actually have the ‘potential’ we assume? 11:06 – Why Europe wants Africa to succeed 12:59 – Corruption is NOT why Africa is poor 14:23 – How culture shapes innovation and development 15:19 – The experiment of South Africa 16:48 – Zanu describes his visit to Durban’s decayed rail system 17:30 – Apartheid, history, and the true meaning of development 18:56 – Why Africa has not taken responsibility 19:12 – Does Africa WANT to stay this way? 21:02 – Why activists and politicians cannot admit they’re wrong 22:47 – Walter Rodney’s book & the damage of bad ideas 24:52 – What Dubai teaches Africa 26:56 – The Orania experiment and lessons from it 29:05 – What is Africa’s REAL problem? A one-word diagnosis 30:08 – Why the revolution must start with thinking, not doing 31:05 – How narratives trap African progress 32:47 – Colonization myths vs historical reality 34:28 – How a single book derailed a generation 35:22 – What white nations must stop doing 36:33 – Why post-colonial models failed 37:18 – Elections will NOT fix Africa 39:06 – Zanu explains cultural mismatches in nation-building 40:33 – Why African “countries” are artificial constructs 42:52 – Should we dismantle African states? 45:02 – Zanu’s “Tribal Nation” blueprint 46:47 – Why America succeeded with diversity but Africa didn’t 49:50 – Why immigrant communities recreate their home cultures abroad 51:14 – The West’s immigration mistakes 53:12 – Cultural traits Africans must understand 55:55 – Monochronic vs Polychronic cultures explained 57:39 – The tribe vs the nation: which one wins? 58:54 – Will Africa break apart? Zanu’s prediction 01:01:15 – Can Africa be saved? The role of think tanks 01:02:43 – South Africa’s unique struggle explained 01:05:32 – What apartheid changed — and didn’t 01:09:04 – Colonization vs African agency 01:10:39 – Why Africans refused real independence 01:12:10 – Closing thoughts & part two incoming