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Computer science students, new graduates, and software engineers...want to land your dream software engineering job/internship? Click here 👉https://www.amanmanazir.com/coaching/... I sat down with Kevin Zhu — former Citadel quant and Palantir developer, to unpack one of the wildest career journeys in tech. From mastering high-school math at age 12, doing real lab research before most kids hit puberty, and grinding through Berkeley’s brutal CS program… to landing multiple quant offers, surviving 18-round interview loops, and earning $154/hour at 21. We dive into what Citadel’s culture is actually like, how Kevin cracked the hardest interviews in tech, why he left quant entirely, and the moment he realized money wasn’t enough. He breaks down the exact study systems, math foundations, and recruiting strategies that helped him go from struggling freshman to landing roles at Amazon, Goldman Sachs, Palantir, DRW, and Citadel. If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to break into quant, whether CS is still worth it, or how to build a career that actually feels meaningful — this episode is your roadmap. 🚀 Get my free Software Engineering Crash Course – https://www.amanmanazir.com/7dayengineer 🎧 Listen to all episodes of the Software Engineering Accelerator Podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast... https://open.spotify.com/episode/5mZN... Listen to our new podcast, @TheEntropyShow: • What’s The Point of Waking Up Early? I’m Aman Manazir, a career coach and software engineer. I interned at companies like Amazon, Shopify, and HP in college, and the day I graduated I landed a $168,000/year* full-time software engineering job. I help you make it as a computer science student & software engineer and get your dream job offer. 📄 Get my free resume template - https://www.amanmanazir.com/resume 💌 Free weekly productivity insights/advice - https://www.amanmanazir.com/newsletter 📕 Get all my free Notion templates discussed here - https://www.amanmanazir.com/notion 📝 Sign up for Notion - https://affiliate.notion.so/2nh3pjr6l5l6 📷 Instagram - / amanmanazir 🐦 Twitter - / amanmanazir 👉 Kevin’s AI Research Program (Algoverse): https://www.algoverseairesearch.org/?... 👉 Kevin’s YouTube Channel: / @kevinzhu-ai 👉 Kevin’s Instagram: / kevinzhu.ai 00:00 Introduction - Kevin's Journey to Citadel 01:44 Mastering High School Math at Age 12 05:01 The Kumon Experience and Future Plans 08:27 Growing Up in Suburban Illinois Schools 10:06 Parents as Professors - Early Lab Experience 12:05 Childhood Research and Lasting Friendships 14:09 Arriving at Berkeley - Culture Shock 18:23 First Semester Struggles and Winter Recovery 20:38 Building Study Systems That Actually Work 22:00 Self-Help Books and Productivity Deep Dive 25:00 Time Blocking Changed Everything 27:00 CS70 Discrete Math Breakthrough Moment 29:36 Breaking Into Competitive Tech Recruiting 31:27 The Startup to Amazon Pipeline 33:29 Landing Multiple Quant Offers 36:26 Goldman Sachs Quant Experience 38:48 Software Engineering Accelerator 42:38 Citadel Interview Process Deep Dive 45:00 Super Day - Multiple Interview Rounds 47:20 DRW Offer and Negotiation Strategy 49:29 $154/Hour at Age 21 50:42 Jane Street and Top Firms 52:40 Ken Griffin Stories and Headphones 54:15 Joining Palantir After Citadel 55:27 Why I Left Palantir Early 57:13 Leaving Quant Entirely - The Decision 59:47 Money Isn't Everything - Finding Meaning 1:02:40 Starting Algorverse AI Research Program 1:05:00 Paper Featured by OpenAI 1:06:20 Bell Labs for AI - The Vision 1:07:15 Mentorship vs Self-Teaching Debate 1:10:00 Math Requirements for Quant Careers 1:15:00 Upper Division Classes Strategy 1:19:06 AGI Timelines and AI Safety 1:23:40 Functioning Despite AI Concerns 1:26:59 Is CS Still Worth It? 1:28:54 The Future of Software Engineering