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This episode goes beyond traditional ESG considerations to explore the evolving field of the circular economy and sustainability in mining. From recycling technologies to waste management solutions, mining companies are adopting circular economy principles to minimise environmental footprints and drive long-term sustainability. The speakers explore innovative ways to reduce waste, maximise resource efficiency, and create value from mining by-products. Speakers on this episode: Filipe Guimaraes | Head of Mining R&D - ArcelorMittal Dr Mathias Schluep | Managing Director - The World Resources Forum Joséphine Quioc | Senior Sustainability Consultant - TDi Sustainability This episode is part of the TDi Sustainability special series of podcasts produced in advance of the 2025 Resourcing Tomorrow event that will take place in London between 2-4 December. Find out more about the event: https://resourcingtomorrow.com/ Chapters: 0:00 Introduction: Welcome to Suits & Boots and overview of the “Beyond ESG” theme 1:12 Guest introductions: Dr Mathias Schluep (W R F) and Filipe Guimaraes (ArcelorMittal) 2:24 What does “Beyond ESG” mean? Reframing sustainability as resilience strategy 3:43 Is ESG dying or transforming? Political context and long-term trends (Mathias) 4:29 The business case for sustainability (Filipe) 6:00 From compliance to core strategy – embedding sustainability in business practice 7:45 Investor expectations – traceability, transparency and avoiding greenwashing 9:14 Global awareness of ESG and circularity – shifting mindsets and buzzwords 9:40 Responsible steel and stakeholder pressure – ArcelorMittal’s circular journey 10:48 From policy to practice – embedding circular principles in industry 11:10 Global insights – ESG and circularity trends from the World Resources Forum 12:20 Understanding circularity beyond recycling – new value creation models 13:25 Technology and sustainability – innovation enabling circular practices in mining 15:02 Turning waste into opportunity – mining by-products and business case for reuse 16:40 Circular economy strategies within mining and steel operations 18:00 Bridging mining and steel – collaboration for innovation and reuse 18:55 Circularity as value creation – why recycling and reuse matter for growth 19:20 Mining and circularity – contradiction or opportunity? 20:45 Vision for a circular mining future – materials-as-a-service and shared responsibility 22:00 AI and digitalisation – reshaping efficiency and sustainability in mining 23:30 Decarbonisation and the future of materials – hydrogen and high-grade ores 24:35 The mindset shift – technology versus leadership and governance 25:32 Turning waste into resource – tailings and local innovation examples 26:25 E-waste and secondary raw materials – reducing pressure on primary mining 29:54 How mining companies can balance sustainability and profitability in practice 33:16 Policy and implementation – what governments and frameworks can do 33:40 One action to accelerate circularity – guest reflections 34:01 Mathias Schluep on “materials-as-a-service” and leasing models 35:18 Filipe Guimarães on common sense and real-world constraints 36:49 Closing remarks – key takeaways and thank-you to guests