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In this profound and heart-centered episode of You Inside You, Trine Schmidt sits down with her longtime mentor, David Swindall, LMFT — a master therapist, teacher, and storyteller whose work has transformed thousands of lives over nearly five decades. From his early experiences growing up in a complex family system to his lifelong dedication to helping others heal through awareness, choice, and compassion, David embodies the art of transformation. Through metaphors, presence, and quiet wisdom, he teaches that change doesn’t always happen where we expect it — sometimes a single shift in one corner of our life changes the entire picture. Together, David and Trine explore the essence of systems therapy, the power of presence, and the courage it takes to meet pain with love instead of judgment. They discuss the “STOP” technique for emotional regulation, the paradox of love being both fragile and strong, and the importance of integrating light and dark — the both/and of human experience. This episode is not only a tribute to mentorship and healing but also a reminder that we are always enough, that every moment offers a choice, and that growth is possible at any age. If you’ve ever wondered how awareness turns into transformation, or how compassion can reframe even the hardest moments — this conversation will move you deeply. Connect with David Swindall: https://davidswindall.com/