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We explore why pastoral transitions heighten anxiety and how those moments expose deeper issues of trust, communication, and power. With Dr. Ken Quick, we walk through systems thinking, corporate repentance, and practical steps boards can take to rebuild health and prepare for mission. • defining anxiety as a systemic response in congregations • tracing mistrust to specific historic breaches and naming them • hearing criticism as a bid for care, not dishonor • family systems framing for board reactions and presence • power vacuums and the drift to pastor‑dominated models • false comfort of quick hires versus deep repair • the waiting place and dismantling unhealthy dependencies • gospel‑centered repentance and non‑anxious leadership • corporate discipline from Jesus and letters to churches • three priorities for boards heading into transition Resources • Pete Scazzero – Emotionally Healthy Spirituality (https://www.amazon.com/Emotionally-He...) • Pete Scazzero – Emotionally Healthy Relationships (https://www.amazon.com/Emotionally-He...) • Roberta M. Gilbert – The Eight Concepts of Bowen Theory (https://www.amazon.com/Eight-Concepts...) • Edwin H. Friedman – A Failure of Nerve (https://www.amazon.com/Failure-Nerve-...) • Edwin H. Friedman – Generation to Generation (https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Min...) • Dr. Kenneth Quick – The Eighth Letter (https://www.amazon.com/Eighth-Letter-...) • Dr. Seuss – Oh, The Places You’ll Go! (https://www.amazon.com/Oh-Places-Youl...) Revelation 3:19 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Jesus disciplines those He loves. Luke 22:31–32 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Satan demands to sift, but Christ intercedes. Genesis 2:15 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Cultivate and keep the garden. James 1:5 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Wisdom asked in humility. James 3:17 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Wisdom from above described. James 4:1 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...) – Passions at war causing conflict. We appreciate when you like, subscribe, rate, or review our show whenever you're listening If you have questions or a need, we’d love to hear from you. For more information, go to our website, flourishcoaching.org, or send an email to info@flourishcoaching.org Support the show (https://mygiving.secure.force.com/GXD...) Please connect with us at our Website (https://www.flourishcoaching.org/) , Facebook ( / flourishcoaching1 ) , LinkedIn ( / matt-bohling-05240b15 ) , and YouTube ( / @flourishcoaching6792 ) . If you'd like to support the work of Flourish Coaching you can click here to make a donation. (https://www.flourishcoaching.org/give) Connect with Jeremy to discuss podcasting. ( / jeremy-cefaratti-shrm-cp-59b5634 )