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…🎙️ WeCultivate: The Pod 🌟 FULL TRANSCRIPTS, FULL AUDIO, AND SHOW NOTES ON THE DIRECT EPISODE PAGE: https://www.wecultivate.world/podcast What happens when language learning is built on compassion instead of shame? In EP 30 of WeCultivate: The Pod, Michelle speaks with Jonathan H., an English teacher with over 25 years of experience teaching in France, Mexico, and beyond. Together, they unpack how early schooling and exam systems often introduce shame into learning, and how destructive it can be when that shame follows people into adulthood. Key themes: Why fluency and perfection are not the same thing How exams test far more than language What real-world communication actually rewards How consistency becomes sustainable when it isn’t punishment Why curiosity and having many interests are often misunderstood in learning spaces Jonathan also shares insights from his long-running speaking challenge across multiple languages and reflects on designing learning practices that work with people rather than against them. This episode is a reflection on language, identity, systems, and care. And what changes when learning becomes more humane. 👉 SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE EPISODES ON LANGUAGE, COMMUNICATION, & LEARNING! @wecultivate.podcast ✨Connect with us on Instagram! / wecultivate.world