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It cn feel like AI is killing creativity—or is it just changing it forever? In this episode, we sit down with Robert Hodgin, renowned creative coder and Houdini artist, to explore what it's like creating art in the age of artificial intelligence. From rebuilding his apartment in Houdini just for fun, to crafting AI-generated videos that feel strangely empty, Robert opens up about creative guilt, passion projects, and the real reason he still does things the hard way. We also dig into the deeper philosophical tension of process vs. outcome, and what it means to be an artist when machines can do it all in seconds. Whether you're a digital artist, designer, or just curious about where creativity is headed, this conversation will challenge your assumptions—and maybe restore a bit of hope. 📌 Timestamps 00:00 Intro and Robert's creative journey 03:00 From sculpture to digital art 08:00 AI tools and creative guilt 13:00 Why he still avoids AI in personal work 17:00 The Houdini apartment project 23:00 Murmuration and 30 years of obsession 30:00 Flow state and how AI disrupts it 39:00 Should creatives embrace AI—or resist it? 45:00 The money problem in the AI age 47:00 Final thoughts and staying human 🔗 More from Robert Hodgin Website: roberthodgin.com Studio: rarevolume.com Instagram: @roberthodgin