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In this captivating conversation, Malcolm and Simone Collins sit down with journalist Suzy Weiss to discuss her in-depth article on the Spoonie community, a group of chronic illness sufferers who have created a unique online subculture. Weiss shares her insights on how the Spoonie movement has evolved, the potential dangers of building an identity around illness, and the parallels between this phenomenon and other youth subcultures. The hosts and guest also delve into the broader implications of a society that increasingly valorizes victimhood and self-diagnosis, and the challenges of protecting vulnerable individuals from harmful online communities. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and welcoming Suzy Weiss 01:45 Defining the Spoonie community and its origins 05:00 The psychological dynamics of Spoonie culture 08:40 The role of social hierarchy and status in illness communities 11:15 Comparing Spoonies to other youth subcultures and trends 14:00 The impact of the internet on amplifying and incentivizing self-victimization 16:30 The real suffering behind Spoonie culture and the need for nuance 19:00 Protecting children from harmful online communities 21:30 The pervasiveness of Spoonie language and ideas in mainstream culture 23:45 Navigating the taboo of questioning lived experiences 26:15 The importance of developing a strong sense of identity outside of illness or victimhood 28:45 The spiritual dimension of the Spoonie phenomenon 30:30 The challenges of finding purpose in a post-scarcity world 32:30 The evolution of gay male culture and its implications for identity formation 35:30 Conclusion and where to find more of Suzy Weiss's work