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We like to believe that when science finds an answer, the story ends there. That progress automatically reaches the people who need it most. This conversation challenges that assumption. In this episode of Business As Unusual, Tayfun sits down with MfX co-founder Césaré Cejas to talk about one of the most powerful breakthroughs in modern medicine, cell therapy, and the quiet, uncomfortable truth behind it. For certain blood cancers, these treatments work. They can mean the difference between life and death. And yet, a single therapeutic dose can cost hundreds of thousands. The science isn't reckless, but the systems around it are still fragile, manual, and hard to scale. Césaré takes us inside what actually happens behind the scenes: how a patient’s own cells are extracted, grown, engineered, and reintroduced, why early research is still painfully hands-on… and how tiny inefficiencies in R&D quietly compound into massive costs. This is a story about innovation arriving faster than our ability to deliver it fairly. At its core, this episode asks a harder question than, "Can we cure disease?" It asks: What does progress mean if only a few have access to it? We also talk about: 00:00 Introduction 02:08 Cell therapy, explained for those of us without the PhD 04:40 Where cell therapy really began: the Emily Whitehead story 06:10 Playing with life? The ethical tension behind cell therapy 07:26 The cure works. So why can almost no one afford it? 12:26 Could cell therapy prevent cancer? 14:00 From academia to startup life: how Césaré's path took an unexpected turn 19:08 Where AI meets cell therapy 21:38 The real dream: making life-saving therapies accessible 23:45 The MBA moment: confidence, clarity, and committing to the leap 26:12 The biggest entrepreneurial mistake 27:31 What Césaré does on days when everything falls apart 29:02 A life well lived, according to someone wired to compete 30:51 When academia shuts the door… and entrepreneurship opens another Connect with Césaré: / cesarecejas Follow MFX: / mfxbio Find out more about MfX: https://mfx.bio/ Connect with Tayfun Bilsel: / bilsel Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to stay tuned for more conversations that sit at the intersection of science, business, and the human cost in between 🛎 About Business As Unusual, Sponsored by Clinked.com 💚 Hosted by Tayfun Bilsel, founder and CEO of Clinked, this podcast looks past polished narratives and comfortable conclusions. It’s a space for honest conversations about the messy middle: where breakthroughs meet reality, where ambition meets deadends, and where the human factor of progress is impossible to ignore. #healthtech #cancertreatment #entrepreneurship #technopreneurship #healthcare #celltherapy #futureoftech #businessasunusual #business