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In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura unpack further exposures within the charismatic Christian world. Drawing on their own background in faith healing spaces, they reflect honestly on figures like Todd White, discuss why these patterns have persisted for so long, and explore how gifting, charisma, and powerful testimonies can sometimes be elevated above faithfulness, character, and quiet obedience to Christ. This conversation isn’t about “charismatic vs conservative”, but about a higher calling for Christian leaders - and for all of us - to fix our eyes on Jesus, practice righteousness without performance, and grow spiritually outside of Sunday. With listener comments, links to previous episodes, and practical reflections on how we move forward, this episode is an invitation to become more discerning, more grounded, and more anchored in truth, with hope for the future of the Church. 0:00 – Intro 0:40 – Welcome 1:23 – Listener comments 10:24 – Our background in faith healing 16:25 – Todd White’s exposure 21:20 – Laura’s initial reaction 26:33 – It’s not charismatic vs conservative 28:12 – A higher calling for leaders 32:10 – How has this persisted in the body of Christ for years? 32:19 – Looking more at our lack than at Jesus 35:20 – Lack of discernment 39:12 – Valuing gifting and charisma over faithfulness 44:53 – Practicing righteousness before others 47:22 – How do we move forward? 47:20 – Growing spiritually outside of Sunday 49:20 – Prosperity preachers 50:57 – How we’re handling finances 55:26 – Being faithful with the little things 57:05 – Giving credit to Bethel 59:00 – Be a Nathan 1:01:50 – Is this an answer to our prayers? 1:02:49 – Final thoughts from Laura & Christa