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Wayne Pivac joins Martin Devlin on the DSPN for an in-depth conversation about international rugby coaching, pressure at the top level, and what really happens behind closed doors when results slip. The former Wales, Fiji and Scarlets coach reflects on nearly three decades in professional rugby, including winning the Six Nations, touring South Africa, and being moved on before a Rugby World Cup. Wayne explains the importance of communication, staff alignment, senior players, and why consistency is the hardest currency in test rugby. The discussion also covers the All Blacks coaching situation, Scott Robertson, player reviews, assistant coach departures, overseas eligibility, and whether New Zealand can close the gap on South Africa. Wayne shares practical insight into how you prepare to beat the Springboks, why discipline and planning matter, and what a new All Blacks coach must do immediately. 00:00 Wayne Pivac’s coaching journey 03:40 Life after international coaching 07:30 Losing the dressing room explained 12:10 All Blacks consistency and reviews 18:00 Overseas players and eligibility 22:30 How to beat South Africa 26:00 Six Nations predictions 28:00 Message to Scott Robertson