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Carl Lentz Confronts His Controversial Past With Lecrae

Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://www.meetfabric.com/Lecrae I sat down with Carl Lentz in an unfiltered conversation about his rise, his “fall” and what comes next. No pre-packaged answers, no PR spin—just a man who’s been through the fire and lived to tell the story. We talk about: 🔥 The pressure of leading Hillsong NYC and how it all unraveled 🔥 What real repentance and accountability look like after public failure 🔥 The dark side of church culture, leadership, and ‘celebrity pastors’ A lot of people have opinions about Carl, but few have actually heard him speak for himself. This is that chance. Drop a comment, share your thoughts, and let’s talk about it! Don’t forget to subscribe for more real conversations on *The Deep End.*" **---------------------** 📱Follow our new instagram!  - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecr... 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Listen to "Lift Me Up" our now on all platforms: https://lecrae.ffm.to/liftmeup.OYD 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ To watch my show early each week, download the B-side app for free! 📱 B-side for iPhone https://apps.apple.com/us/app/b-side-... 📱B-side for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/de... Subscribe to the B-Side YouTube channel: @thebsideapp Want to financially support B-Side?: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/bsideapp Chapter Markers 0:00 - Coming Up 1:08 - Today’s Guest, Carl Lentz: Controversial Christian 4:26 - Larger Than Life: Navigating Unhealthy Pedestals 10:02 - Charisma and Criticism 14:54 - Ad: Fabric by Gerber Life: https://www.meetfabric.com/lecrae 16:22 - Restoring and Rebuilding 20:44 - Fallen Evangelicals 25:20 - From Behind the Scenes 31:11 - Pastoring: Uncomfortable Truths 35:26 - Scandalous Judgment, Necessary Changes 41:00 - Describing Difficulty 44:34 - Grading Scales: Punishment and Penance 54:53 - Poster Child? 57:59 - Ad: Tell Us What Stories You Want to Hear 58:29 - Knowingly Unhealthy, Isolated Struggles 1:06:16 - Young and in Ministry: Stunted in Growth 1:11:29 - Why Transformation 1:20:24 - Perspective, Grace and Growth 1:23:14 - Functioning Through Dysfunction 1:28:51 - Restored and Imperfect 1:34:58 - Authentic and Raw 1:39:23 - Why the Boots: Staying in Your Lane 1:46:56 - Loud Culture, Louder Conviction 1:49:09 - Coming Out of the Hurricane 1:52:54 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion