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Live audience Q&A with Dawie Roodt and Bonsai Shongwe — covering the viral “Groenewald for President” moment, why politics is shifting fast, and why 2029 is the real battleground. IN THIS EPISODE • “Groenewald for President”: unintended consequences and why it went mainstream • Trump vs Zuma: why comparisons backfire (and why that matters politically) • Can AI make “scientific communism” possible? (Dawie’s argument) • Europe vs USA: interventionism, productivity, and the Trump shock • The ANC’s blind spot: South Africans are economically aspirational • DA vs ANC: what values look like when you’re willing to lose votes for them • The question that detonates the room: “70% want SA poor?” • The numbers: civil servants, grants, and the collapsing tax base • BEE + the R100bn fund: why it could become “buy your BEE” and end it • 2029 outlook: civil society, SARB, courts, media — and why the next 5 years get messy • The “missing party”: a common-sense centre movement… is one coming? Don’t just complain get involved, share this conversation, and subscribe for more State of the Nation insights. Get Daily Updates: @PoliticalInsiderZA LIVE EVENT TICKETS R550 ex VAT The Tryst Kramerville (13 Feb 2026) with Helen Zille Tickets: https://sona.co.za/index.php/events/ Follow @sonacoza on TikTok, Instagram, X, and Facebook Produced by Stream In Studios – https://www.streamin.co.za The State Of the Nation is Proudly Sponsored by Pace Car Rental https://www.pacecarrental.co.za/ Use Code : SONA for a discount today! Chapters: 0:00 Reverse Oreo setup + audience Q&A kickoff 0:39 Groenewald for President: unintended consequences explained 1:14 Trump vs Zuma comparison — why it triggered both sides 2:16 How the “Groenewald” meme started (and how it flipped) 3:12 Bonsai: the comments shifted — “oompit is mine” moment 4:55 Dawie: why communism is easier today (AI + data) 6:26 How Soviet “scientific communism” worked (prices + allocation) 8:42 Trump jolting Europe: interventionism, productivity, rightward shift 10:10 Maslow critique → ANC misreads aspiration 12:52 Bonsai: SA is aspirational (even on grants) + parties miss it 14:07 DA leadership question + why DA should keep its values 15:44 Dawie: why Hill-Lewis stands out 16:32 Audience question: “70% want SA poor — what about 30%?” 17:37 Mike: 70% bloc vs 30% just wanting pain to stop 18:36 Dawie: civil service incentives + “we can’t afford it” 20:05 The tax base crisis: dependency vs taxpayers 21:03 Education spending vs outcomes (system failure) 22:00 “Cutting spend” vs spending better (growth-first argument) 23:07 Mike: BEE’s entrepreneurship penalty 24:24 Dawie: small business myths + where growth really comes from 26:00 Dawie: R100bn fund could “end BEE” (buy your compliance) 27:20 Audience: “What happens in 2029?” (new party question) 28:05 Mike: the missing common-sense centre party + doing it right 29:10 Dawie: what ANC didn’t destroy (courts, SARB, media, democracy) 30:05 Bonsai: next 5 years loud & messy + ACDP attention may grow 32:10 Dawie: ANC accidentally privatized everything 33:06 Closing thanks + call to support + optimism outro