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Scooter Braun (entrepreneur, investor, former music manager) spent 23 years at the top of the music industry, guiding the careers of Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, J Balvin, and more. Then, he walked away. For the first time, he shares the real reason why—and the dream that pushed him to make the final decision. In this intimate conversation, Scooter reveals what success couldn’t fix, why he finally stopped running, and the reckoning that followed. In this episode Scooter shares: -Why he walked away after 23 years at the top of the music industry -The vivid dream that told him to "let it burn"—and why he listened -The real story behind Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, and Kanye West -Are Taylor Swift’s “Vigilante Shit” lyrics really about him? -The mask he wore as “Scooter” and his journey back to Scott -Why he’s long felt misunderstood -The insecurity that fueled his rise and what finally quieted it -What he thinks people get wrong about power, fame, and winning -The darkest moment of his life and the healing that followed -How his divorce broke him + transformed him -What it really takes to spot talent (and why it feels like falling in love) -Why he believes karma isn’t punishment—it’s a teacher -The one thing he wishes he’d done differently in his music career -The one artist he says is wildly underrated -What he really thinks about the TikTok-iszation of music and the future of the industry -His vision for his future + the legacy he hopes to leave for his kids Book Recommendation: Many Lives, Many Masters *This interview was recorded in April of 2025