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“Paying attention now is actually a kind of political act." Renowned Thai artist Rirkrit Tiravanija reflects on the role of art in a time of crisis, the importance of questioning authority, and the need for critical engagement with the world around us in repressive times. For Tiravanija, art serves as a space of doubt and freedom: "Art is always a place where we can have doubt, we're free to think, and we're free to question authority—any kind of authority." He urges viewers to challenge established institutions, including their own assumptions. “I think now when we're in a place and time where you know there's so much trying to ask for attention, but the attention they're asking for is a kind of is a diversion from reality in a way is a diversion from facts is a diversion from truth,” Tiravanija says. Tiravanija talks shares his view of the world at the occasion of his most recent work ‘A Million Rabbit Holes (2024), reflecting the events leading up to the US selection in November 2024. Throughout the discussion, Rirkrit Tiravanija draws on personal observations and global political concerns, highlighting the dangers of uncritical acceptance: "We're coming to a place where the dreams are going to be shattered, there is no more dream." Tiravanija also reflects on the commodification of art, arguing for a return to its radical roots: "Art has to stop becoming commodified and art has to go out and back into the woods as it was. Or maybe Duchamp, like has said, you know, it's time to go underground." Despite the challenges ahead, the artist remains hopeful that crisis can be a catalyst for change: "I think we're coming to a big crisis and I I think, and I hope, that crisis is extreme enough to wake people up, to come together, to do things together in opposition to those things that are being set on us." Rirkrit Tiravanija (b. 1961, Buenos Aires, Argentina) is a leading contemporary artist known for his immersive and participatory works that blur the boundaries between art and everyday life. His practice often involves cooking communal meals, creating interactive installations, and challenging conventional art spaces. A pioneer of relational aesthetics, Tiravanija has exhibited at major institutions worldwide, including the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) in New York and the Tate Modern in London. His most recent work A Million Rabbit Holes was shown at the Pilar Corrias gallery in London in 2024 and subsequently at Gammel Strand, Copenhagen 2025. His work continues to engage audiences in conversations about politics, society, and the transformative potential of art. Christian Lund interviewed Rirkrit Tiravanija in Chiang Mai, Thailand in February 2025. Camera and edit: Jarl Therkelsen Kaldan Produced by Marc-Christoph Wagner Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2024. Louisiana Channel is supported by Den A.P. Møllerske Støttefond, Ny Carlsbergfondet, and C.L. Davids Fond og Samling. Subscribe to our channel for more videos on art: / thelouisianachannel FOLLOW US HERE: Website: http://channel.louisiana.dk Instagram: / louisianachannel Facebook: / louisianachannel