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Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt Phil Migliarese sits down for a special Between Rounds conversation. Phil shares stories from the early days of jiu jitsu in America — discovering Gracie Jiu Jitsu through tapes, training before the sport was mainstream, and being part of the first wave of practitioners on the East Coast. He talks about learning directly from Helio Gracie, spending time at the Gracie Academy, and what it was like being around legends during the early UFC era. We also get into his journey traveling to Brazil at a young age, experimenting with techniques, and developing his own style through curiosity and constant learning. Phil reflects on the culture of old school jiu jitsu, challenge matches, and how the art has evolved over time. Beyond training, Phil breaks down building Balance Studios, growing multiple academies, and his approach to teaching, leadership, and running a long-lasting gym in a constantly changing industry. This episode is a deep dive into jiu jitsu history, philosophy, and the mindset behind decades of experience on and off the mats. 👊 Topics include: Discovering jiu jitsu through early Gracie tapes Training in the early days of MMA and jiu jitsu in the U.S. Learning from Helio Gracie and time at the Gracie Academy Traveling to Brazil and developing his style Old school jiu jitsu culture and challenge matches Building Balance Studios and multiple academies Teaching philosophy and structuring classes The evolution of jiu jitsu over the years 📺 Subscribe for more long-form MMA and jiu jitsu conversations, behind-the-scenes stories, and interviews with legends of the sport. #PhilMigliarese #BJJ #JiuJitsu #BrazilianJiuJitsu #BetweenRounds #MMAPodcast #GracieJiuJitsu #HelioGracie #BJJHistory #BalanceStudios #Grappling #MartialArts #FightCulture