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Join an active community of RE investors here: https://linktr.ee/gabepetersen 0:00 - Welcome & episode intro 1:36 - How Ashley got his start in real estate at age 12 3:02 - Scaling from single-family rentals to multifamily 5:07 - Should you start small or go big right away? 8:45 - The investor mindset & why conservative underwriting wins 11:05 - Why North Carolina is a multifamily goldmine 12:54 - Building a lean, high-performing syndication team 17:35 - Ashley's goal: reaching 1,000 units by 2026 22:54 - Hard lessons learned: the critical importance of liquidity 25:51 - The cash-out refinance strategy that creates infinite returns 26:19 - How AI is changing real estate investing & operations 🏠 WHAT THIS EPISODE IS ALL ABOUT In this episode of The Real Estate Investing Club, host Gabriel Petersen sits down with Ashley Garner of ABG Multifamily — a multifamily syndicator with over 40 years of hands-on real estate experience. Ashley's journey started not in a classroom, but with a hammer helping his father subdivide houses near West Virginia University in the mid-1980s. That ground-level foundation shaped a career built on discipline, conservative underwriting, and long-term wealth creation — not acquisition fees. If you are serious about multifamily investing and real estate syndication, this is a must-watch. 🔑 💡 FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO 196-UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEALS Ashley walks through the full arc of his investing career — from a first single-family home, to duplexes, to a 10-unit property he still owns today, all the way up to a 196-unit apartment complex closed just eleven months ago. He shares his take on the age-old debate: should new investors start small and scale, or go big right away? His answer is grounded in decades of experience. The key insight? If you want to skip the ladder and jump straight into large multifamily deals, you need a mentor who has already done it. The shortcut exists — but only through the right relationship. 📊 CONSERVATIVE UNDERWRITING IN A WORLD OF OVERPAYING SYNDICATORS What separates wealth-building syndicators from fee-chasers? Ashley explains that ABG Multifamily underwrites every deal as a true long-term investor. He has watched deals close at prices he could never justify, and rather than chasing volume, he sticks to his criteria. His team targets 200-unit-plus properties exclusively in North Carolina — a market he believes holds more strong multifamily investment opportunities than they could ever exhaust. This disciplined, geography-focused approach is a masterclass in focus and execution. 🎯 🤝 BUILDING A LEAN TEAM & KEEPING INVESTORS IN THE LOOP Ashley breaks down how a lean team — an analytical partner, a dedicated CPA, a third-party property manager, and a marketing firm — can run a sophisticated multifamily syndication with weekly video meetings across each group. Quarterly Zoom calls with LP investors keep communication transparent in both good times and rough patches. For anyone raising capital for real estate, this section is essential. Consistent, face-to-face communication is what keeps trust strong and capital flowing back into future deals. 💼 🤖 AI, INFINITE RETURNS & THE POWER OF THE CASH-OUT REFI Ashley shares how his team uses AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity for forensic bank statement analysis, marketing strategy, and tenant demographic research. He also dives into one of real estate's most powerful and underrated wealth strategies: the cash-out refinance. His 10-unit property, purchased in 2013, has been refinanced three times and now generates returns on essentially zero invested capital — the true definition of infinite return and passive income. This is how multi-generational real estate wealth is built. 🚀 Whether you are a first-time investor, a growing syndicator, or a passive LP, this episode delivers real, actionable insight on multifamily investing, apartment syndication, conservative underwriting, team building, and using AI to operate smarter. Subscribe, leave a comment, and share your biggest takeaway! 👇 #MultifamilyInvesting #RealEstateSyndication #PassiveIncome #ApartmentInvesting #RealEstateInvestingClub Want to learn more about our guest? Connect here: www.abgmultifamily.com Want to learn more about the REI Club Podcast, how to invest with Gabe at Kaizen, or join our community of active real estate investors on Skool? Visit the podcast website at https://www.therealestateinvestingclu... or click here: https://linktr.ee/gabepetersen