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Body-cam video shows prison guards in an upstate facility beating a 43-year-old man to death on December 9. It happened at the Marcy Correctional Facility, a prison near Utica. Robert Brooks Sr. died after the extended beating, and now his family wants answers. Governor Hochul has ordered an investigation. But reform advocates have been calling for change since long before this death. Our guests are a husband-and-wife team who share their ideas for how to make the justice system more just. Thomas Gant served 25 years for murder and wants to use what he has learned during his incarceration to help others. In studio: • Thomas Gant, community organizer for the Center for Community Alternatives • Kerry Gant, board member for the Center for Community Alternatives, and community advocate 0:00 Introduction 3:19 Reactions to the Brooks case 5:19 Robert Brooks Jr.'s response and call for change 6:27 What needs to change in prisons? 8:44 Exploring the racial dynamics of the case 12:59 What is the Center for Community Alternatives? 13:13 Addressing public skepticism around incarceration 15:25 Personal background and path to prison 18:27 Choosing the streets over college 19:50 Making amends and preventing future violence 21:02 What works to intervene in youth poverty and crime 27:33 A love story born in prison 32:03 An unlikely journey to partnership 38:43 Reform from the inside out 40:05 Education in prison: who pays and why it matters 42:04 Communities not cages: introducing the reform bills 49:35 Hope, humanity, and safer communities __________________________ For more shows and information head to https://www.wxxinews.org/show/connect.... Be part of the program with questions or comments by phone at 844-295-TALK (8255), emailing [email protected] or using the chat on the live stream. Do you have a story that needs to be shared? https://www.wxxinews.org/pitch-your-s... __________________________ Become a member of WXXI: https://www.wxxi.org/donate Never miss a headline with our daily newsletter: https://www.wxxinews.org/newsletter.