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Hear the full episode (including the song intro) at htps://mikeypod.com or your favorite podcast directory. MikeyPod's been going for 20 years—since the early days of podcasting. This is episode 358 of conversations with independent artists. For those of you who've been listening for nearly two decades—thank you so much. I'm now bringing these interviews to YouTube as well, so if you like what you see, there's a whole archive of audio episodes waiting for you at mikeypod.com This episode brings back writer and musician Brett Gleason. We talked about his move from New York to LA, his shift from music to writing, and what draws him to the craft of memoir and personal essays. Find Brett at https://www.brettgleason.com Find Brett's writing at https://brettgleason.substack.com Find me at https://michaelharren.com This podcast is powered by my subscribers on Patreon—learn more at / michaelharren