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When we talk about transport, we often mean roads, rails, and budgets. But maybe transport is really about power, dignity, identity, and who a city decides to serve. Our guest, William McDougall, is one of Australia’s most experienced transport planners — with nearly five decades of international experience, from the UK to Perth, Melbourne, and London. In recent years, his work has focused on sanity and sustainability in transport planning. Together we explore: Is transport just movement — or a statement about freedom and belonging? Why do some cities love cars, and others trust trains? Do politics and “matehood” influence which projects get built? How does Australia’s transport history reveal our national psychology — our complex relationship with land, distance, and independence?