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Get ready to sail the high seas of policy and pollution! This episode features the amazing Dr. Hanna Dijkstra, a plastic solution researcher, consultant, and communication whiz who has seen the plastic problem from the most remote beach on Earth to the painfully slow United Nations negotiation rooms. Host Joel Tasche and Dr. Dijkstra dive into the high-stakes drama of the UN Global Plastics Treaty, the frustrating tactics used to stall progress, and the heroic innovators working on solutions right now. 1. Paradise Lost: The Shocking Reality of Henderson Island Forget paradise; imagine an uninhabited atoll so remote the closest people are "likely on the International Space Station"—and it's absolutely smothered in plastic. The Mission: Dr. Dijkstra joined Plastic Odyssey, an organization with a vessel that sails the world doing education and advocacy on a cleanup expedition to Henderson Island. The Haul: Her team of about 13 people removed approximately nine tons of plastic from the beach. The Truth: Scientific studies found the majority of the waste wasn't consumer packaging, but waste of a fishing or maritime origin likely lost at sea or intentionally dumped. The Numbers: They removed a staggering 1,500 buoys and found almost 1,000 PET bottles with waste originating from 20 or more countries. Life at Sea: The vessel is closer to a "hostel" than a five-star resort, constantly rocking and rolling. Dr. Dijkstra confessed seasickness hit hard, and traveling meant days with no land, maybe not even a bird, in sight. 2. The UN Plastics Treaty: A Game of Slow Motion Policy The global goal is clear: create a legally binding framework to regulate plastic and significantly reduce plastic pollution. The political reality, however, is a grinding bureaucratic battle. The Timeline: The process kicked off with a historic resolution adopted at the United Nations Environment Assembly (UNEA) at the end of 2022 which aimed to have a treaty decided upon and adopted within two years. The INC: Negotiation sessions are held by the Intergovernmental Negotiation Committee (INC). The 2025 Disaster: The meeting in Geneva in the summer of 2025, which was supposed to be the last, ended in a stalemate. The chair presiding over the process even resigned leaving the two-year deadline firmly abandoned. Next Hurdle (February 2026): The immediate focus is a one-day meeting on February 7th, 2026, to vote for a new chair. The catch? The choice must be by consensus meaning even this step might be delayed, as "delay is also a tactic." 3. The Two Camps: Ambition vs. Ambiguity The negotiations are split between two fiercely opposing coalitions, often debating the difference between words like "must," "should," or "could." 4. The Innovators Alliance: Action Over Arguments Dr. Dijkstra works with the Innovation Alliance for a Global Plastics Treaty, a coalition of innovators, startups, and entrepreneurs founded by Repurpose Global and The Ocean Cleanup. Their Mission: To act as a bridge, giving a voice to innovators in the high-level policy process and reminding negotiators that solutions—from alternative materials to cleanup—are already available. The 2026 Plan (The Atlas): The Alliance plans to create an "atlas"—a map—to showcase their members' work across the plastic value chain and link it to large-scale reduction targets. This map will connect real-world solutions (like reuse and refill) to reports like the "Towards Ending Plastic Pollution" report to prove that action, and investment, should start immediately. Where Her Heart Is: Dr. Dijkstra's heart remains with the innovators, who are "not taking no for an answer" and finding creative, self-sustaining solutions despite the policy gridlock. Connect with Dr. Hanna Dijkstra: Find the Innovation Alliance at iagpt.org Find Dr. Dijkstra at hannadijkstra.com Learn more on Plastic Odyssey & Henderson Island here: henderson.plasticodyssey.org Let's manifest a great 2026 for plastic pollution solutions!