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How did the life experience of Epictetus differ from Seneca, Cicero, and Marcus Aurelius? How did their life experiences affect their philosophy? Is it wise to complain? How can we age gracefully? Is health good and illness bad? Should we die grieving and trembling with fear? Why does Epictetus call exile, imprisonment, shackles, death, and disfavor indifferents? Did all Stoic philosophers condone suicide? How did their life experiences affect their views on death and suicide? How did these Stoic beliefs differ from those of the Church Fathers? For more interesting videos, please click to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: / @reflectionsmph Shortcut: / @reflectionsmph Script for this video: https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/... © Copyright 2025 This blog includes footnotes: https://seekingvirtueandwisdom.com/ep... The Complete Works by Epictetus, Robin Waterfield, Translator https://amzn.to/3UjVcs0 Cicero: Selected Works, Penguin Classics, translated by Michael Grant https://amzn.to/45j1wFl Cicero: On Life and Death, Oxford World's Classics, John Davie, translator https://amzn.to/46moxXg Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius, Robin Waterfield, Translator https://amzn.to/3HCr1oq Stoic Six Pack, including works by Seneca: https://amzn.to/36KNo8T In his Discourses, his class notes collected by Arrian, the Roman Stoic Philosopher Epictetus shares how to accept and enjoy indifferents such as exile, misfortunes, old age, and death. We discuss: • How Epictetus was a former slave of a former slave. His former master was Epaphroditus, a secretary to the Emperor Nero, who permitted Epictetus to attend the philosophical lectures of the leading Stoic in Rome, Musonius Rufus. Epictetus credited his teacher, Musonius Rufus, for many of his teachings. • How Appian recorded the Discourses, the major work by Epictetus. • Why the Stoics Epictetus, Cicero, and Marcus Aurelius did not obsess about suicide, and why Seneca did. How St Augustine and the Church Fathers opposed suicide under all circumstances. • Comparing the reflections by Epictetus to Job’s suffering, and the suffering by the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps during the Holocaust, as described by the psychologist Viktor Frankl, who was inspired by Stoicism. • How Epictetus lived a simple life in poverty with few possessions. • Being grateful that old age sees a lessening of sensual pleasures and passions. • This is a key theme of the Stoics, that we should never blame God for our troubles, but rather ask God for the strength to endure our suffering. • Reflections by Epictetus on the trial and execution of Socrates, told by the Apologies written by both Plato and Xenophon, • Our other reflections on aging by Paul Tournier, Cicero, Seneca, and Jimmy Carter, plus future reflections on the views of Simone de Beauvoir. • Why we prefer the Greek translations by Robin Waterfield. Please support our efforts, be a patron, at: / seekingvirtueandwisdom Patrons can participate in online Zoom discussions of draft presentations we prepare for future YouTube videos. As Socrates teaches us, the examined life is a life worth living. We would be fools if we did not desire to learn from our multitude of friends whose words live in the works of the classics that have survived from past centuries and millennia. The Stoic and moral philosophers of Greece and Rome saw philosophy as an evangelical enterprise, seeking to spread the joy of living a godly life for its own sake. Our projects include: Studying the teachings of the ancient and modern stoic and moral philosophers on how to better lead a godly life. Studying ancient and modern history to learn moral lessons and learn how we can successfully live a life of faith in trying times, including civil rights and social gospel history. Studying issues of morality in the Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and Jewish traditions. This is original content based on research by Bruce Strom and his blogs. Images in the Public Domain, many from Wikipedia, some from the National Archives, are selected to provide illustration. When images of the actual topic or event are not available in the Public Domain, images of similar objects and events are used for illustration. All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. No images or content are primarily intended to shock and disgust. The ancient world was a warrior culture out of necessity, to learn from the distant past we should not only judge them from our modern perspective but also from their own ancient perspective on their own terms.