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Episode 175 (October 17, 2025) Spotify: https://bit.ly/3J16Bdd Apple: https://bit.ly/4980XQY Laci Goth and Matt Chokes welcome their friends Tiera (@SpookyT on TikTok ) and Derek (@HFK on TikTok) join the show to play the game of Saw. We all have varying degrees of affection for this franchise, and we get into the long history of its development under James Wan and Leigh Whannell first in Australia and then in Hollywood, and the major series it spawned. Then we go through the movie at length, wondering, at the end of the day, what exactly Jigsaw is trying to teach us. Follow Tiera and Derek’s filmmaking on YouTube: Elevated Cryptid Productions ( / @elevatedcryptidproductions ) Next week: The Cabin in the Woods (2012) with Cinematic Joshua! Bonus video: Matt talks about Rob Zombie’s Halloween (2007) for 20 minutes • Rob Zombie's Halloween: An Interesting, No... Subscribe to our Patreon, Load Bearing Beams: Collector's Edition for $5 a month to get two extra episodes! / loadbearingbeams Time stamps: 0:00 — Episode opening 00:03:05 — Our histories with the Saw franchise / opening thoughts on the first Saw 00:16:30 — History segment: James Wan and Leigh Whannell develop Saw, shoot a short film as proof of concept, and sell it to Evolution Entertainment; the film is bought by Lionsgate, becomes a huge hit, and spawns a major franchise 00:44:50 — Movie discussion 01:35:20 — Final thoughts and star ratings Sources: “Saw creators Leigh Whannell and James Wan” by Scott Tobias | The AV Club (2010) - https://bit.ly/46ytbms "Blumhouse Buys Rights to ‘Saw’ Franchise" by Brent Lang | Variety (2025) - https://bit.ly/4pLGUO9 Artwork by Laci Roth. Music by Rural Route Nine. Listen to their album The Joy of Averages on Spotify (https://bit.ly/48WBtUa), Apple Music (https://bit.ly/3Q6kOVC), or YouTube (https://bit.ly/3MbU6tC). Songs by Rural Route Nine in this episode: “Your Ambition” - • YOUR AMBITION by Rural Route Nine (Officia... “Winston-Salem” - • WINSTON-SALEM by Rural Route Nine (Officia... “Snake Drama” - • SNAKE DRAMA by Rural Route Nine (Official ... “The Bible Towers of Bluebonnet” - • THE BIBLE TOWERS OF BLUEBONNET by Rural Ro... Follow the show! Twitter: @LoadBearingPod | @MattStokes9 | @LRothConcepts Facebook: @loadbearingbeams Instagram: @loadbearingbeams TikTok: @load.bearing.beams | @mattstokes9 Letterboxd: @loadbearinglaci | @mattstokes9 Bluesky: @loadbearingbeams.bsky.social